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Kristel Average Member United Kingdom 564 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 09:50:41 Oooh. Just read an interesting post, about how us Taos moan too much, and how tough the Warriors have it because they only have a few "hard" Skills and the Tao has loads. Well, Zsaiyanprince, we do get more spells than you, and we spend money leveling them, as well as spending on all the things you have to buy. Also, we may well get a new spell from lvl 18 onwards almost every level, but you just remember that most of them are designed to protect YOU. Mass hide, Revelation, Soul Sheild, Blessed Armour, Trap Hex. All designed so we can help you. Well, this little Tao is now on strike. I find your ignorance offensive and from now on I will only help people I know to be my friends. In the past, I helped everyone I found, but it seems that some people in Mir don't want healing and defending. You would not believe the abuse I've had from paranoid people who I stop to heal. One Wiz had just taken a hit from an Elite, and knowing how weak the Wizards are, I healed him and hid him so he could keep fighting. What thanks did I get? A thunderbolt and a stream of abuse about the drops being his. I mean - my bag was full. How paranoid was he? So untill people like Zsaiyanprince get their attitude sorted out, I'm on strike. I'm also thinking of starting a Tao Guild, exclusively for Taos and their Tao-friendly Friends. That would be cool :) ----------------------- Kristel clear! - at least, I hope I was 제발 영적인 향도 종류를 도우십시요. 우리는 필요안에 이어다 !
Lippo Senior Member Finland 1285 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 09:56:15 Well, selfish twat... he'll learn when he tries solo at wt, st or zt /Lippo
Kristel Average Member United Kingdom 564 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 09:59:25 quote: Well, selfish twat... he'll learn when he tries solo at wt, st or zt /Lippo Hehe... true! Without Taos they'd use a Ton of HP. People dont realise that its not easy playing a character that is there mostly just to help others - but it is very rewarding, when people accept the help. I love my class. I've recently begun to feel happier as a Tao. I'd prefer poison to be used from the quick launch bar though ----------------------- Kristel clear! - at least, I hope I was 제발 영적인 향도 종류를 도우십시요. 우리는 필요안에 이어다 !
izzywizzy New Member United Kingdom 64 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 10:32:56 You can heal me anytime sweetie Ignore the asshole, just keep looking out for us nice guys
HoodlumPlaya Junior Member United Kingdom 168 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 10:49:40 KRISTEL U ARE OUR TAOS UNION LEADER. IM GOING ON STRIKE TOO, US TAOS SUCK. Alos with Magic Shield Wizzards become invincible. I think all the GMs r wizzards cauz that is the only class GMs have put any thought into. Lol us taos our besty spell is our lev 7 spell heal what does that tell you. "Say 'ello to my little friend!" Mafia Guild Member
KrazyKid Junior Member 127 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 11:30:07 Kristel Klear !!! I'm on strike !!! No more healing ..... Say .. bout' the Tao only guild.... interesting ....
gazzer Junior Member United Kingdom 250 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 14:19:58 Yo guys, I am not a Taoist or a wizard but a common or garden warrior, and always appreciate help if it is given by anyone. But you must also understand that in a game like this, and with all the PK'ing and Steeling of drops going on, it does make players paranoid as to the motives. But also......... quote: One Wiz had just taken a hit from an Elite, and knowing how weak the Wizards are, I healed him and hid him so he could keep fighting. What thanks did I get? A thunderbolt and a stream of abuse about the drops being his. If a wizard is stupid enough to go up against an elite at short range, then I'm afraid they deserve all they get. It is nice to see a Taoist willing to help others without any kind of prompting, but you will always get paranoid players no matter how hard you try. For myself, I will always try to do the best I can, for myself and for others. Gazzer. http://www.geocities.com/gazzer_jenkinson/index.html Kindly move your ass..... It's parked in my spot.
Mercz Moderator USA 1225 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 15:43:55 Woohoo! Gooo Kristel But seriously though, its so annoying when u try to help someone and they come back and think we are trying to steal their kills or something. I mean, I cast MassHiding on a Warrior surrounded by 8 rats (He didnt even have Halfmoon) and he starts to whine about how Im stealing his rats. Well, fine then...Keep the damn rats. I have already stopped casting mass Hiding. I levelled it up to lvl 1 quite quickly, but not anymore. Im too scared to cast it. Everyone just whine about me stealing kills if I cast it...so now I rarely cast it to cover me and my skelly only, or if Im in a group.
J!m Junior Member United Kingdom 228 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 18:23:21 Personally i love tao's i'd lvl with em anyday, i'll help em out anyday, they can hide me when ever they want KILL THE WIZ'S In-Game Jim0x lvl ??? warrior Ph33r the Modems For i will lag you to death
Neoleash Junior Member Denmark 150 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 18:31:06 The solution is just to be selfish. I've learned it the hard way hearing crap from alot of players when you try to help them out. Use your spells on yourself and those in your group and you get the thank you deserve. Also on other Taos as they know WHY you help them and its certainly not to steal anything from them (kills/drops). Use it on others and you get crap. On a sidenote im pretty glad that theres still alot of friendly warriors and wizards out there that appriciate heals/hidings without requesting it first. Heck, even last night i had a wizard coming up to me in Zuma Temple asking for help to hide him so he could nail this maggot coz it was in a bad spot. Usually its us Taos down there that need help from warriors or wizards to take out those(another proof that the GMs dont like Taos, by putting so many maggots in a place where the xp is decent). Dunno if i wanna join this "unfriendly" strike, i am very friendly by nature but, im interrested in joining the guild. I figure i better try out that part before i quit. "If you aim at failure and succeed, what have you then done?"
js7 Junior Member 258 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 19:29:22 quote: So untill people like Zsaiyanprince get their attitude sorted out, I'm on strike. Way to go! We could stand people in centre of Bich shouting 'TAOISTS ARE ON STRIKE, SO DON'T BOTHER ASKING!' or perhaps 'TAOIST STRIKE IN EFFECT FOR ALL WHO FORGET THEIR MANNERS!' and stuff... quote: I'm also thinking of starting a Tao Guild, exclusively for Taos and their Tao-friendly Friends. That would be cool :) quote: ----------------------- Kristel clear! - at least, I hope I was 100%
Parn Starting Member 7 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 20:50:00 Here's my story, Two days ago i was soloing in the mines, 2 wizards show up and start talking crap to me, one of the wizards had 3 oma warriors, i ignored them and kept fighting zombies. Then both wizards start killing my pulls(leeching. I can handle one zombie at a time), then the wizards start repulsing me deeper into the mines(was in 3rd floor at lvl 16). The wizard with the oma's then started demanding that I heal his oma's, I just ignored them and DE'd out. I know I said I was soloing in the mines and heres why When I ask warriors if they want to group they tell me "Sorry I need the exps" however they wont leave me alone, they will solo and demand that I heal them! So im all up for this strike! Parn 17 Tao
TheFlaminSheep Starting Member 49 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 21:19:38 Im a wizard. I apreciate help, specialy from tao's coz i die so fast, i only have a problem with them the same as anyone who steals my drops or kills. but anyways J!m: would you like to come and stand next to me and say 'KILL THE WIZ'S' plz? i havent had a good fight in ages....
Archeon Advanced Member United Kingdom 2672 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 21:48:52 Awww Krystal how could you i always ask nicly if i need healing i always say plz and thx what more do ya want sob as for the skills bit i think that you'l find its not so much the lack of skills overall hell i agree i could woop ass with or without my skills i think its more the huge gap between which we learn them i mean lvl 7 and lvl 19 thats a large gap you have to admit if they moved a skill like shoulder barge down to lvl 16 or somthing that would satisfy most of the proper warriors we don't all think we need a long ranged attack ya know, as for the money thing i admit you do spend more lvling skills and you can't just walk off come back later and find you have lvl 3 fencing but its still not cheap for us we have to repair our weaponary i know its possible to use weaponary you find but who keeps that i sell it straigh away if your on strike fair enough you do get treated badly but how would you like it if us warrior went on strike then you had to do all the hand to hand? while we just stood back waiting? i'm not saying we will its just without a tao to help me at times i feel like i've lost an arm even when i'm grouped with one i say thx evey time they heal me sigh ohh well i hope that you do change the attitudes of people like that you have to note this is the newer class of warrior who were raised with hooked swords readly assesable and cry because they can't solo zumaT at lvl 10 the ones that are wanna be wiz's ohh well i'm off to cry for the lose of the tao class all us real warriors will miss your healing touch and when u deside to come back i want to be the first in line to be healed ^_^ Canniblism Is A Recipe-Based Respect For The Dead
Kristel Average Member United Kingdom 564 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 22:16:42 Thanks for the support guys :) Like I say though, don't forget your friends. They still deserve help. Which is why I'll help you out if I ever see you Archeon I also agree that the warrior needs some filler skills. Maybe leave the current ones where they are, but have some others to fill the gap. I saw an agility defence mentioned in another post, dual weapons (maybe using the candle slot which usually takes up your other hand) or throw dagger or something like that. Not highly offensive, but fun. Long live the Tao movement! I certainly wont be healing people in safe zones anymore. I have a summon skelly spell to lvl up! ----------------------- Kristel clear! - at least, I hope I was 제발 영적인 향도 종류를 도우십시요. 우리는 필요안에 이어다 !
Archeon Advanced Member United Kingdom 2672 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 22:21:56 Yay!! Edit - i hate the people who who just walk up to you guys demanding heal i hate the little noobs even more who don't understand that only Taos can heal and they don't understand they cry PK when i try i mean my martial sword must have some kind of healing propertity!?! Real Men Arn't Afraid To Cry Sob Edited by - Archeon on 09/05/2001 22:31:48
Parn Starting Member 7 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 22:29:22 My post was never ment towards friends, or those that find themselves in bad situations. ;P Its the people who follow me around and say "heal plz" and refuse to group with me. Or those people who say "Heal plz" just to be healed up so they can solo again. If your gonna solo bring HEALING POTIONS dangit ;P
Arathorn Average Member United Kingdom 907 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 22:33:28 Well im a warrior and im always greatfull for heals or hiding to be cast on me and always show my apreciation, at least by saying thanks (or giving MP if i have some, but i normally just leave it for people who need it), and i have to say iv never had a toa whos healed me ever trie to steal my drops, in my experiance its normally low lvl warriors, they continuslay lure stuff to you and then take the drops, some are even fuking cheeky enough to complain if you take the drops cause "it was there mob" dosnt matted that i killed it after it was lured to me. It dose also anoy me when every where i go people are shouting "HEAL" or similar, it isnt hard even just to add plz on the the end, i normally dont trouble people for heals unless im verry low on HP and need it to get back to town, but i always apreciate it, especially when a passing toa gives me a few heals on there way past when im fighting, ever pot saved is a bonus in my book.
Archeon Advanced Member United Kingdom 2672 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 23:01:29 Yeah hay i'm a warrior can we join your strike we will try to heal people with our swords if they ask as for the lurers umngst us i don't have a problem cause personnaly i love fighting against impossible odds ^_^ probably the reason i tryed going to zuma so often at lower lvls i think the lowest i went was 14 i got cained by a big rat but only just and i love the thrill when you almost think your dead then a mirical happens and you win the fight however your left with little in the way of pots (like none) no DE's, no rare items still knowing you've gone against a really strong foe and won well i remeber the time i killed my first black boar lvl 17 used all my pots but finally got the bastard then 2 reds and 5 black maggots came up and i was slaugtered still yeah lets go fill the gap the taos left and spread death and destruction across the land Real Men Arn't Afraid To Cry Sob
Morgana Starting Member 5 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 23:09:48 I have never met any seriously ungrateful players who moan if I heal then (like that wiz). I don't mind if people ask nicely and say 'pls' - It helped me to level the healing up to maximum so I really didn't mind!! However sometimes I am very sorely tempted when someone just commands me to 'HEAL' to not bother and reply 'woof, woof, <wags tail>' but I guess thats just my warped sense of humour!
Kristel Average Member United Kingdom 564 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 23:12:26 Arathorn - If you are the lovely warrior that leaves the MP lying around in the Natural Caves - BIG THANKS from me! :) You and people like you are the life blood of mir. quote: Yeah hay i'm a warrior can we join your strike we will try to heal people with our swords if they ask LMAO! ----------------------- Kristel clear! - at least, I hope I was 제발 영적인 향도 종류를 도우십시요. 우리는 필요안에 이어다 !
Archeon Advanced Member United Kingdom 2672 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 23:21:27 Mir Bleeds?????? Oh my god what if it has a heart attack from all the souls i will relese from there physical form OK warriors the killing sprees post-poned till we can get a mechanical heart for mir Real Men Arn't Afraid To Cry Sob
Arathorn Average Member United Kingdom 907 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 23:25:50 dont normally hunt in the natural caves, but you should see the amount in the overpass between the south of the dead mines and the storing place of ore in bichon mines as mostley warriors hunt there and dont take it, theres normally that much that people who pick it up on the way through cant carry it all :)
Archeon Advanced Member United Kingdom 2672 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 23:28:43 Is that the over pass with a real small bridge but loads of zombies spawn there i remember i was stick fighting them with a wiz behind me taking the word human shield to a new high All donations for Mirs artifiacl heart will be accepted by me come on warriors we can't risk a killing spree till we install it where would be a good place Noob town? or bitcheon Real Men Arn't Afraid To Cry Sob Edited by - Archeon on 09/05/2001 23:30:05
Arathorn Average Member United Kingdom 907 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 23:33:05 yup thats the one, it can get bad if there are a few spawns with no one to clear them out.
Archeon Advanced Member United Kingdom 2672 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 23:34:45 Ughhh tell me about it i was halfway across the bridge when these spawns happened damn good fun though ^_^ Viva La Tao Resistance Real Men Arn't Afraid To Cry Sob
Arathorn Average Member United Kingdom 907 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 23:38:39 yup, its great fun if thereare only 2 or 3 people there, you basically get a part of the place to yourself, but its started to get really busey latley :(
HoodlumPlaya Junior Member United Kingdom 168 Posts	Posted - 09/05/2001 : 23:58:46 Kristel read my post in this section titlke WIZZARDS-GMs i think i have come up with some good ideas about the new spell for the next update. I am especially proud of my lev 40 tao spell. HOLDING HANDS, oh forgot to add my lev 44 spell MASS HOLDING HANDS, go figure "Say 'ello to my little friend!" Mafia Guild Member
js7 Junior Member 258 Posts	Posted - 09/06/2001 : 03:20:42 quote: Well im a warrior and im always greatfull for heals or hiding to be cast on me and always show my apreciation, at least by saying thanks (or giving MP if i have some, but i normally just leave it for people who need it), and i have to say iv never had a toa whos healed me ever trie to steal my drops, in my experiance its normally low lvl warriors, they continuslay lure stuff to you and then take the drops, some are even fuking cheeky enough to complain if you take the drops cause "it was there mob" dosnt matted that i killed it after it was lured to me. It dose also anoy me when every where i go people are shouting "HEAL" or similar, it isnt hard even just to add plz on the the end, i normally dont trouble people for heals unless im verry low on HP and need it to get back to town, but i always apreciate it, especially when a passing toa gives me a few heals on there way past when im fighting, ever pot saved is a bonus in my book. good man.... all I ever ask for is manners, and heal is fne..... :-)
Neoleash Junior Member Denmark 150 Posts	Posted - 09/06/2001 : 06:23:05 Well Mir has just lost another healing hand. At lvl 22 i've given up! I AM so close to lvl23 that i can actually taste it but. after being pk'ed by a lvl 17 KOREAN warrior while fighting a couple of rats i've decided not to bother with THIS game anymore and go back to beta testing Slayer instead(simular game, just a decade behind and the Korean Engrish is even worse). I've ALWAYS been a Diviner/Priest/Monk in all RP games i've played and really enjoyed it but, this game lacks too much on that side when it comes to that Not only the ability to solo but also the PvP is lacking soo much, that the unplayable in the long run. Along the coding of the Toaist some sadist have put every bit of hate into the and made it unplayalbe. As a bandage on our wound they state that at lvl 35 we will be able to solo...umm GREAT! At lvl35 you "should" have enough friends in the game that solo'ing is only a distant option that you dont use. The next patch/update isnt gonna give us any sort of break and we will, until next years patch, be forced to continue with whats in the game now. Ie we raise our hand to throw an amulet above our head but it still misses what ever is on the other side of a table. Why?? Well, the tables in Mir are either THAT tall or our amulets flies along the ground in tableheight. Not to mention a pole making us miss our soulpapercut if its in a 2x2 square reach of its destination. Still our amulets flies through walls if we hide someone or cast a shield. After all its more likely that we are helping out a wairrior or wizard in those situations so IT BETTER WORK ALWAYS. The LACK of GM's taking interest in the Taoist is ridiclious and any normal RPG with that kind of "commitment" would lose a really fast and make the game unbalanced. After all, the healing is needed in all RP games, except for Mir. They have so many things implented into the game that Taoist isnt really needed. Mining for money so you can buy hitpointpotions is just one of them. In Mir healers is a dying breed and even though i've lately seen more lvl22+ Taoists around, the "super hero" outfits with their one-handed(?) great axes will continue to dominate the world. Looking at the choice between other RPG's i can only say that Mir is NOT a RPG, but more a third person fighter game. It will _never_ be classified as a RPG or even come close to such a game. The imbalance in the combined with the pk makes it a action game rather that a role playing game. It reminds me more of PacMan in a new world than any of the other RPG i know about. Heck, you can't even chose how your character is gonna develop(strengh, dexterity, intelligence etc.) but are forced to play within a certain system thats set BY the system. In short, all Warriors, Wizards and Taoists will always have the same outcome in their respective So much for taking on a role and play it since 15000 others do the excact same as you. Basicly i would recommend Mir to all in Kindergarden, Korea and those who would like to get a taste of RPG's without having to enter any hardcore RPG envioment. Its a great game for first time RPG users and anyone else having trouble balancing a That will also be Mir's downfall as a first time RPG players or Koreans arent excactly in the age range where they own a creditcard or have any other access to paying for the game. 'Nuff said about that ... Taoist IS, and will probally be, for a long time, the ULTIMATE difficulty in Mir. Those who choose this should be warned beforehand that they are gonna listen to all the crap in the world, be pk'ed without having a chance to fight back, have a map of natual caves and mines hanging above their bed as its gonna be their home, smile when someone take a pissed down their back and generally be an all around great fella/girl. IF you want to experience all that Mir has to offer, Taoists is NOT the to chose. Its only a few that will see anything beyond Zuma Temple F1 and live to tell the story about it. Even though the webpage states that Taoists is the hardest to play, its not only HARD, its only rotten to the core. The wrong skills given at the wrong time and worst of all, the lack of GM interrest will make it the losers forever. We, the Toasts, have chosen to take on the ultimate challenge of them all and test it out. Our feedback has been given many times and all we got to show for it is...umm...a fancy suit and a GM wizard showing off the Shinzu to all and everyone. Im sorry Mir staff but simply by stating that Toaists is the hardest to play doesnt make it right! The thing that proves it the most is the PvP. When PvP outcome is decided by SKILL and not the game, the are balanced, not by 4 letters starting with H and ending on D. You guys go soo much to work on that removal of the amulet graphics is the least of them. "If you aim at failure and succeed, what have you then done?"
gazzer Junior Member United Kingdom 250 Posts	Posted - 09/06/2001 : 09:43:44 quote: Its the people who follow me around and say "heal plz" and refuse to group with me. Or those people who say "Heal plz" just to be healed up so they can solo again. If your gonna solo bring HEALING POTIONS dangit ;P Yo Parn bro. Please do not cast all us warriors with the same brush, I would try always to help and even group with others should they need help lvling or just company whilst adventuring. I hev even adventured with other who do not wish to group, and we got on fine. They got their exp and I got mine, and we both managed very well, so it does show that it can be done without all this bickering. I appreciate all that the other two classes can achieve and respect them, but sometimes as this post has shown, you do not get the same respect back. Warriors and Wizards should not demand healing, they should politely ask as I do if the need arises. And to rant and rave when a taoist heals them without prompting is really crap. If I ever come across you in the game, I will group with you bro any time. gazzer. http://www.geocities.com/gazzer_jenkinson/index.html Kindly move your ass..... It's parked in my spot.