They aren't all your mobs just becasue 50 of them r around u. lol
Oh yea once you have those 50 around you we prefer if you don't lure most into us. Maybe you didn't know that.

Want to take a guess at the % of ppl that r pkers or jerks on Mir as to their character type? Here's mine:

Warriors 93% Taoists 6% wizards 1%

Oh BTW, I have a warrior as well (lvl 24).

Aren't a large % of warriors mental midgets that think they own Mir everyone else be dammed? Guess it comes with the high HP and AC. lol

Well maybe thats to strong, but they seem to have little understanding of the balance of nature in Mir. Maybe they need to be foreced to play a wizard character up to lvl 28. Then they would start to understand where we wizards are coming from. Well at least the intelligent ones would. Zing!!

As I now have a level 24 warrior, I'm kind of understanding the warrior mentality a little better. You can run around WT or BC and play superman without much of a threat of dying. As long as u have a few sun pots and randoms you can do anything and walk away. Warriors are so dam easy to play and rarely ever get into real life threatening situations. Now I haven't played in ZT much yet, so I can't speak to that place.

Warriors just aren't challenging or very stratigic (spell checker where r u) no wonder so many of them sit around PKing people.
Wizards on the other hand you are always in life threatening challenging situations. Constantly thinking of what stragety or spell to employ to make it out alive.

Two nights ago as a lvl 31 Wizard an I lost an ET to a respawn. Most warriors at that lvl would have been able to deal with that easily. As long as u have pots u win. Hmmm real talent to play that character. lol

When I'm busy eating/cooking/watching TV I play the warrior as I know I can crank up the volume walk away and if I hear something run back and still have no problems. Try that with a wizard and you only hear his death scream. lol

Mir staff needs to figure out how to get some balance/challenge back into the warrior character. Until then I'll keep lvling my warrior get to 35, hog all the WTs and run through BC at break neck speed.

God I can feel my IQ getting lower already. Folks I can't afford to get it any lower than it already is. Help! Fix the warrior character.

Maybe add more powerful magic mobs to areas.
Lower warrior AC.
Add a few super mobs to areas. Similar to super archer and guardians in ZT.
Give wiz a slow spell that changes areas of land to mud for 5 or 10 minutes. God I'd cast that all over WT & BC for those running fools.

lol have fun.

In order of skill you're looking at 1 being the easiest and 3 being the hardest and more skill needed to play correctly.

1: warrior
2: wizard
3: taoist

As for class PKs etc. Warriors 50% Wizards 40% Taoists 10%. All known PKs are however Taoists. LordIronfisT, DrGreen, Wolmack, REDTIGER4, LadyToa etc.

As for warrior attitude - I would say 90% of warriors have an ego problem and are arrogant beyond belief. Yes, some may misunderstand my meaning in posts and I have to agree sometimes some people will think that I'm arrogant too. But in-game you'll find the vast majority of warriors are plain simple rude & greedy! lol

But it's a game and it's fun no matter how you choose to play it.

A solo warrior is very easy to play, but i for one am too lazy to run everywhere so stick to a casual stroll, probably due to playing a wizzie on dragon server and running into many problems (and usually death). On the upside i do get time to type my usually inane banter in guild chat

On the other hand a warrior in a group can be challenging, watching the flow of battle for weaknesses in the groups defense and ensuring the artillery (wizzies) and medics (taos) are protected. Nowhere near as thought provoking as a tao but does require some brain activity.

MrShush
Warrior

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As much as i hate to say it, i agree with you Nicon.

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Lol
Dam LordN, one of these days you'll post a reply before I can even get the orginal post on the forum.

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i beg 2 differ nic my mage pk on dragon is far more effective than my war i mean ok hes class at killin wizzards and taos but they can run away when ur a wizzard they cant run away and it rules i think best pkin class is wizzard war then tao alough id reverse tao with war if they have they lv 7 skele cause iver never been able 2 outrun a tao with lv 7 skele and sfb :(

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war lv25 phenoix
My IQ just dropped 10 points

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So most articulate comments head woosh over.

Yes warriors are easy , but our sex lifes are none of your concern.

Yes warriors take on 50 mobs at a time, but thats because we can,t count that high without taking of our death gaunlets.

Yes we rush past people, but that,s because of last nights curry.

And as for not being skilful well , it is not easy to remember all
those buttons. Halfmoon on Halfmoon off difficult for us.

So en comclushen mey me sayy no feair yo brranine WIzexrds end
Tooaiststy types ( badly ) pickling on urs pore intellllecuallllly
challan chanlen chell OH HECK US THICK ONES.

Leillian

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nicon would u go in mir and c if Jacky is online pls

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war lv25 phenoix
My IQ just dropped 10 points

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in bug cave, a warrior (will remain nameless) is up to his eyes in bugs, sees me walk past and shouts 'HEAL'. i heal him, and try to help by killing some bugs near him, only to be thanked my the words 'NO, MY BUGS, LEAVE EM!' swiftly followed by 'HEAL', which this time went unanswered.

to warriors - taoists are not your little bitches, dont expect them to heal you if you are not greatful for it.

*slips back into retirement*

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Reply from feeble minded warrior who has taken one too many
head shots from a flamming wooma.

So most articulate comments head woosh over.

Yes warriors are easy , but our sex lifes are none of your concern.

Yes warriors take on 50 mobs at a time, but thats because we can,t count that high without taking of our death gaunlets.

Yes we rush past people, but that,s because of last nights curry.

And as for not being skilful well , it is not easy to remember all
those buttons. Halfmoon on Halfmoon off difficult for us.

So en comclushen mey me sayy no feair yo brranine WIzexrds end
Tooaiststy types ( badly ) pickling on urs pore intellllecuallllly
challan chanlen chell OH HECK US THICK ONES.

Leillian

"your actions define who you are"

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hehehe not 2 nite but hey ill give a tip some time 2 morrow nite after 9 somethin is gonna happen duno what yet but something

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war lv25 phenoix
My IQ just dropped 10 points

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one of the reasons i quit

in bug cave, a warrior (will remain nameless) is up to his eyes in bugs, sees me walk past and shouts 'HEAL'. i heal him, and try to help by killing some bugs near him, only to be thanked my the words 'NO, MY BUGS, LEAVE EM!' swiftly followed by 'HEAL', which this time went unanswered.

to warriors - taoists are not your little bitches, dont expect them to heal you if you are not greatful for it.

*slips back into retirement*

Phoenixflame
Elite's very own Mr Laggy

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lol I quit my warrior when Slaying was the last warrior skill and the best weapon you could lay your hands on was a Martial Sword.]

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You mean i can upgrade from my wooden one !! See what i mean no
one tells us anything. Perhaps we should not be allowed out on our own.
Got to go the men in the white coats are threatening to take away
my copy of 'the art of war' and i,m dying to find out if the butler
did it.

Leillian

Not so now with this post here. This just goes to show that you've lost your reasoning, perspective on things through some fresh bad experience and you show lack of maturity by blowing up like that over an incident or even a series of incidents happening over some time. The exact percentages you put down (even if guesstimates) show that and leave me really wondering about you...

Plus I can't think much of anybody who can't see specifics of playing a certain class of char and talk about non-challenging and non-strategic aspect of a char... (btw wizard is easier to raise in my experience than warrior, certainly to lev 20) I guarantee you, you can play both a Warrior and a Wizard (Tao too) in a dumb way and complain about non-challenge of both these chars... witness that every day...

If I have a number of mobs around me, be they 5 or 50, yes they are not mine (those I didn't start fighting yet) but commmon courtessy says, you go get your own, its not like the ones around me are the only ones in game or that there's such a scarcity of mobs plus you act as a leach since you rely on my being a 'tank' for you - keeping the 'attention' of mobs on myself... and if somebody intentionally lures mobs on anybody, then he/she is a jerk and I fail to see how non-challenge playing a char (if there is one) makes one into a jerk, I'd rather think that jerks are jerks whatever char they play...

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You CANNOT COMPARE two classes at THE SAME level, period!! For example, Wiz lev 15 can level in places where Warrior at htat lev cannot. Wiz with newly acquired fireball can solo hunt Oma Warriors, Warrior at that level simply cannot!! Wiz can go hunt in WT way before Warr can reasonably go there at all... And if you think, Warr cannot die as long as he has pots, than I can't tell you anything, really. It just tells me, you've played that Warr of your's in a very non-challenging way!!

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When I'm busy eating/cooking/watching TV I play the warrior as I know I can crank up the volume walk away and if I hear something run back and still have no problems. Try that with a wizard and you only hear his death scream. lol

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As for warrior attitude - I would say 90% of warriors have an ego problem and are arrogant beyond belief.

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And yeah we don't have much skills and have to worry much but I like it that way cos I play Mir for fun and not to know where all my F-Keys are with my eyes closed

I tried to play my bro's wizzy the other day and DAMN is it hard lol. I tried to hit a few zombies with the spear (too much warrior in me lol). Not to mention I will t-bolt the things and he will say "FFS firebang em what the hell u doin?"

I mean what am I supposed to do? I manage to press the number keys (usually when I have a DE selected damn it) when I want to press the F-Keys so don't pick on me

Savi, not sure what your in character game name is but cut me some slack guy. I'm just playing with your warriors mind and a little bit of real bitching on my part. After all I do have a warrior I'm playing a lot myself. As soon as I get to lvl 25 I'm Pking Nickphil and stealing his reserved spot in S_1. lol Watch out Nick my char has a gun.

Plus Savi, if I didn't start this LordN and those 5th characters would keep posting about that war or lack of. Anyways if you don't lighten up, I fart in your general direction.

You can compare any of the 3 classes at any levels and I do agree wizads have the avantage at the early lvls, unfortantly most of us are spending our time at the high levels where the warrior often has a negative impact on wizards around them due to selfishness.

BTW you didn't say the % of classes that r pkers and looters. Be honest now fess up it's the warrior with the highest %.

Phoenix has become another Dragon now where wizards rarly if ever get a chance at WT anymore. I rarely even go there anymore as all you hear is warriors fighting over whose WT it is.

As far as wiz hiding around cornors and T-bolting mobs, whats your point? How does that affect you? Do we steal from you or casue them to some how attack you from around a cornor. Seems kind of non intrusive to me.

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We all need each other to survive in this game and with it each clasS has its own strengths and weaknesses.

I personally play all clasSes and know what difficulties each one has and where it succeedes others.

Warriors - strong (armour and HP)
Wizzards - powerfull (dc caused by spells)
Taos - irreplaceable (heal, bless and trap)

I dont see anyone complaining when there is a ZT hunt and the warriors form the barrier between ZT and the wizzards and taos who are attacking and healing. nor do i hear of complaints when a warrior brings home pressies such as mage staffs, life necks, serpent swords, plat rings, etc.

We all need all clasSes to survive, if you dont like the fact that you cant run through BC and not die then sorry mate but you chose the wrong character. Nobody tells you which character to pick, you read the game story and the character characteristics and you decide how you want to play the game, and therefore you take what ever weaknesses that character has.

With Wizzards its the health thing, but man do those spells hurt from a low lvl when compaired against a warriors DC!, i mean that ice storm of Rasts fekking hurts! And you try hitting a wiz when they attack you, its like trying to catch WT in a good mood!

Warriors have their problems, repairing for me is THE biggest pain in the arse. We spend our time and cash hunting the bosses over and over again and our stuff gets battered to absolute crap. We have to keep hunting to replace our special items that have dissintigrated from constant repairing, where as taos and wizzes virtually never have to repair, therefore erradicating the need to hunt big bosses for special items as often.

I would love to be able to heal myself and save thousands on pots every BC trip but i cant because im a warrior. I would also like to do the same with attacking from a distance and taking out a group of mobs at once, but i cant because im a warrior. I can run into a crowd of mobs and survive, why, because im a warrior.

With the luring issue i personally never lure, if i do by accident and see another character i always stop and fight the mobs, even if it means me getting beaten to a pulp and costs me thousands on pots to stop someone else getting mobbed. The same cannot be said for some others i admit but thats the individual person not the character in question.

Also there is the question on what lvl should certain clasSes be in certain places. If wizzes are finding it hard to stay alive in BC from respawns then maybe they should hold off out of there untill lvl 31 for soul shield?

The key to the game is to make friends with members from all Clases to get items for you, protect you, help you with things that you cannot do. ZT would be a nightmare if it wasnt for wizzes and taos.

I think everyone needs to stop complaining about 'this claSs has that' and 'that claSs has this' and accept the character they chose and all the faults that come along with it.

Remember - The Three Heros - we all need each other, it makes sense.

Thanks to those people who took the time to read what i had to say.

i started playing this game with 2 friends, a tao and a wizz. The wizz pretty soon went solo, as he didnt like the clumsy 'fencing' i showed off and hated the zombies. He went to WT while i was still scared every time i met a bat. So i continued to hunt with the tao. All went pretty well and we both lvl-ed like crazy. Untill 'skelly' joined the group. At first i rather liked it, lil' funny bony man, but soon it started to annoy me. Being the trigger-happy (?) warrior i am, i thought it my prerogative to hit every mob first, to walk in front of the group, to run a bit (very cool, running), but with skelly, i couldnt anymore. Each time i wanted to move, skelly moved in front of me. Every time i had to bank, skelly was standing on the money. As u understand, skelly was a nuisance. But soon my friend the tao learned how to use his skills. He hid when need, to distract the mobs attention. Moved skelly in at the right moment. Together, we did great. But then, hitting lvl 22, my friend the tao lost his interest, part due to the fact he is quake player and justs prefers that game, partly because - i think - he found lvl-ing his tao rather hard. Now, at 4% to before lvl 26, i mostly hunt with other warriors. Most wizz' i know lvl solo, and i dont really know that many tao's. I hate luring many mobs on me, unless i can fight them one by one. It just costs loads amounts of pots, and imo, u can get as much xp using a 1/4 of pots when fighting them a bit smarter. I hate using pots and even more spending money. I prefer my mobs served one by one.

The moral of this story? None. I just started writing and didnt stop.

Its not hard to be a warrior, specially hoocked to another warrior. I do 'love' the job though. I have the feeling the warrior should protect the wizz and tao from close attacks(tho most can handle themselves perfectly on their own), when in a group. But all classes have their benefits. Indeed a wizz can stand behind a wall and tb all the boars, which seems rather easy. Likewise the warr can stand in between 20 zombs and kill them without a scratch.

But to put in at least some life threatening challenge Deadly, i suggest u go to ZT soon, 3rd/4th floor and see how that's like. I'd be happy to join u and die fighting a SZG :)

Meffa

I abandonded a lev 23 Toa on Dragon, because it was too difficult, In favour of a Warrior on Phoeonix because It was easier.

I leveled up the war on Pheonix to 28 (could have been Higher, but family problems) But was it rewarding?

in my view NO

I deleted my Drgaon Charcter Because I Felt He wasnt going anywhere.

I have Leveled A warrior to Lev 28 and felt Exactly the same, but with far more experiance.

So Which was more rewarding in the long run? the Toa at 23 or the Warr at lev 28.

In my viewpoint, Definatly the Toa. I sincerly wish I hadn't deleted my Dragon character, but I felt Dragon a No-Hoper.

I stand corrected. Dragon Is ok If U can cope with random Pk's.

If U can stand that, and have high enough charcter, then Dragon is for U.

In my honest opinion, the warrior is OK for leveling up to a point, but the Toa has a stratigic play that the other classes cant touvh.

I wish I was a Toa now. They have more strategic play, and I deleted that for the hope of quick leveling.

My call, my **** up..

Oh what fools these mortals be...

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However.

I would agree with previous comments, that its the person behind the charactor,and not the class itself.
In my own guild, MrShush,arfweasel,Lan,LIGHTENING etc, I find to be excellent warriors,and they also appreciate and understand a wiz's a weakness's
Many others,outside the guild,too many to mention,also command my respect. But there are others, who I have nothing but contempt for.
Pretty much as in real life, there are a few people,who have no consideration for those around them.

Now, a lvl28 wiz (though I don't consider myself a particularly good one) I have a warrior myself, started before the wiz, but now stagnating at lvl 16, as I enjoy the wiz much more, despite the frustrations and heartache,at times.
I am not in a position to compare like for like, but I enjoy the tactical aspect much more.Stalking and luring individual mobs,into my waiting pets, when presented with multiples.

But thats me. lets face it, we are all different, and have different tastes, and require different things to satisfy us.
Its wrong to say that warriors have less "class" than the other 2 class's,for it isn't the case.
As has been stated,its about the 3 charactors, and together they compliment each other.

caoli

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