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Duckbill
Average Member


United Kingdom
698 Posts
Posted - 11/20/2001 :  04:56:54  Show Profile
It is true, every guild leader has the following problems

1. Can't level up as fast as the others did
2. Need to get new members (for guild hunts)
3. Update guild notice board
4. Update guild member list (Ranking)
5. Setup guild hunts
6. Set guild rule (which no one ever obey)
7. Selecting people that don't make trouble and boot the rest
8. Get complaint of no HUNT, get PKed, and DROP being stolen.
9. Making sure everyone is happy.
10. Ally with other guild
11. Settle problems between guilds
12. Who's getting what items (after hunt)
13. where the money goes (after hunt)
14. Sigh... Why did I bother having a guild in the first place...

Duckbill - Leader of NIGHTMARE

Duckbill
Average Member


United Kingdom
698 Posts
Posted - 12/16/2001 :  03:21:23  Show Profile
Just had another people left today to start off a guild, he was asking me a lot of questions. Hehe, good luck to him.

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Lightning_Flik
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Posted - 12/16/2001 :  03:36:26  Show Profile  Send Lightning_Flik an ICQ Message
My best moments as of late are when I see a members reaction to getting a gift or help from the Guild.

My worst are when something in Guild goes wrong, like original leaders/members leaving.

Like two sides of a coin, a Guild leader has to be able to handle both.

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Disley
Senior Member


United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/16/2001 :  03:56:20  Show Profile  Send Disley an ICQ Message  Send Disley an instant message
a guild leader faces leadership challenges everyday, all different. when it goes right its great, but can always go wrong.

thats why when u look at the top guilds, you know their leaders must be doing something right, even if they are as stupid as anything and only respected cos they live in the game and are a seriously high level

Disley - lv 24 wiz {Eternal Guildleader - Recruiting....}
morad - lv12 tao
Disley - lv16 war {Phoenix}

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Duckbill
Average Member


United Kingdom
698 Posts
Posted - 12/16/2001 :  21:02:33  Show Profile
Well said Disley!!

Unlike some guild with rules like:
Steal whatever you want
PK whoever you like
Hacker as many account as you can

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Disley
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Posted - 12/16/2001 :  22:20:42  Show Profile  Send Disley an ICQ Message  Send Disley an instant message
quote:
Well said Disley!!

its taken me 600+ posts for someone to say that

Disley - lv 24 wiz {Eternal Guildleader - Recruiting....}
morad - lv12 tao
Disley - lv16 war {Phoenix}

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Viet
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USA
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Posted - 12/17/2001 :  01:40:39  Show Profile  Visit Viet's Homepage  Send Viet an instant message
dont make new guilds...join THO

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Duckbill
Average Member


United Kingdom
698 Posts
Posted - 12/17/2001 :  02:11:39  Show Profile
There are so many guild in MIR that you can join, if you really want to make your own that's fine. You don't really need to say who is the best guild... All the guild out there are unique, every guild has its own functions, and their best skill. None of them really are the same, and as far as I heard, every guild seem to be happy with what they have got except those people are only going to one guild for money and items, then end up become a thief or pk.

Well... It's your choice, nothing is perfect.

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Duckbill
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United Kingdom
698 Posts
Posted - 12/19/2001 :  02:04:28  Show Profile
Sabuk conquest war...

What I see in Chinese server... I see more fun than the one with TU guild done this week, I see a more WoomaHorn in shops than guilds, but what do we got? 250+ guilds... and yet, it is still increasing. Why not try pass an old guild to someone to make it better? Or just simply remove it once and for all and join other guild to make them stronger? Can we just get on with each other? Being alone does not make you any better.

250+ guilds and yet 1400 people playing... What's the point?

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Disley
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Posted - 12/19/2001 :  17:14:19  Show Profile  Send Disley an ICQ Message  Send Disley an instant message
quote:
250+ guilds and yet 1400 people playing... What's the point?

well there are very few players guild less now, but of those 250 guilds lets say maybe only about 100 are successful, which to some extent is still far too much

Disley - lv 24 wiz {Eternal Guildleader - Recruiting....}
morad - lv12 tao
Disley - lv16 war {Phoenix}

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Duckbill
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United Kingdom
698 Posts
Posted - 12/30/2001 :  03:26:57  Show Profile
Somehow I haven't get to see one fine day, everyday is about drop stealing, then lead to a bloody guild war. After the war, everyone shouting about the lost of items, money and time. Why can't we just get those people who do such things off those "Good" guild, and let them be outcast.

If a guild screw up because of one player, people start leaving and etc... we should just make sure they don't join in the first place.

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enembius
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Posted - 12/30/2001 :  06:20:34  Show Profile  Visit enembius's Homepage  Send enembius an ICQ Message
amen

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Duckbill
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United Kingdom
698 Posts
Posted - 12/30/2001 :  06:34:32  Show Profile
quote:

amen

Awaiting server shutdown.


So be it!

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Godfather
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United Kingdom
737 Posts
Posted - 12/30/2001 :  11:41:59  Show Profile
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but please make sure that you do it slowly, and don't ever recuit over 50 people under a week.

this is how me and my mates made mafia different to all other guilds. It has taken us 4months to get 30members, we were the 12th guild ever made. I think reputaion is a key on mir. I turn down about 5-10 people a night. Ive had ''wtf im lvl31 and your rejecting me?''. We have always given all our items to each other for free, somehow people seem to think its a new thing. We have players of all ages (what makes a good guild) that all get on well i dunno about other guilds but i feel guild chat is key and has often cost me to dying trying to type lol. Im not the highest lvl by a long shot and dont have the best items. We have hunts everynight either arragned on guild chat or pre planned. We have a laugh as you probably know ;). Also its not just in mir i have most of my guild on msn and do lots of things (age of empires games in the near future) and just have a generaly good time.

I find it funny how guilds can talk about their own guild and their own members in they way they do. Everytime i see someone shouting 'selling halfmoon' i wonder about his/her own guilds warriors or when i see 'hes not a core member i dont know him' i carnt understand how someone would be in a guild like that. If anyone messes with any member of the mafia (pk/steals of them/abuse) they will pay. 1 of my members was killed by robbertt, so we grouped up and took him down (rob is cool know though :)). Evilwhite pk'd/abused 1 of mafa so i hunted him down and killed him 5 times in 6 nights.

If creating a guild of 150 players and taking sabuk was the most fun on mir i would of done that. But its not, not knowing your own guild members must suck. When i get messages of 'your guild is great' and 'your guild member xx helped me mafia are nice guys' i know i have done a good job. Im not worried about any members of the mafia because they are all 100% safe and i like all of them.

thats my view :) and how i play mir but thats whats great about mir, there are 150+ different types of guild and mine is one of them.


Mafia Leader
Godfather: sorry i got d/c®
Save Chip dont let Sara win

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Disley
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/30/2001 :  17:37:41  Show Profile  Send Disley an ICQ Message  Send Disley an instant message
well said gf, iv 2 motives really, one to enjoy it and have a laugh, and secondly maybe eventually too get strong enough for sabuk wall, but then i aint gonna have tossers in the guild just cos theyre 10 levels higher than me

hell i dont try to level up, im lv25 now and iv been playing since beta. the guild is more important to me, i might try and level up one more time cos then i can tame mags and equip the better items

iv booted quite a few players out the guild already, i usually let a lot of people in, but if they dont prove themselves to be good people and are only there to feed off guild items, theyre gone

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Guyv
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Posted - 12/30/2001 :  19:27:56  Show Profile  Visit Guyv's Homepage
:}}}

Guyver1
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DarkOdin
Average Member


United Kingdom
830 Posts
Posted - 12/31/2001 :  02:32:43  Show Profile
lol nice one god, yeah, mafia is cool cos we recruit slowly so we get a chance to know all members, we're probably the guild who kills the most guards and prolly the most naked and dancing guild lol.

This one has purple inside, purple is a fruit!----Homer J. Simpson


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AZN
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USA
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Posted - 12/31/2001 :  09:07:19  Show Profile  Visit AZN's Homepage  Send AZN an instant message
In my career as THO leader

I've learn a few things that turn THO successful and a enjoyable guild that's everyone likes.

A guild leader must have Integrity and respect also a good sense of humor and balance.

When Stonemage asked me for a promotion as Guild leader I wasn't sure I was the right one. He picked me because I was one of five original member Cullen,Eneah,Stonemage,AZN,Dealreal (hope I got that right) also I was the highest lv Warrior in guild at the time and I was always online.

So then I got off at a right foot since everyone accepted my promotion w/o Jealous and think I deserve it. Soon I started to recruit bunch of ppl that hunt in the same zone as me so now we have companion in the same hunting zone. Most of the guild was lookin up to me cuz of how fast lvler I was. At that time my rival were MiDHA, bushimon, NOMAD, thedeath. Those time were the best of my mir life because I have many goals.. catchin up to MiDHA, hurry to lv28 to use dragonsword and constant ZT, WT hunt pluz at that time we just began to migrant to bug cave.

Things began to turn sweet and sour when the Massdrop patch release where ZT can now summon lot of mobs, mine being overcrowded by zombie and bugcave is so much more. At the first day of the patch was the difficultest of MIR year because ppl couldn't find solution to adapt new enviroment.. well later warriors began to use corner to hunt ( I did and got lvled very fast! ) as for wizard began to tame maggots and roam bug cave and tao is still in very difficult time.

As for THO it grew strong more than ever. Me and stonemage tryin to take on ZT soo many time but failed and tryin to find a solution to kill ZT we spended countless hour attemp on ZT but failed. Finally we were able to use the log in/out idea and corner as combination
we killed ZT got relic . After that we keep on hunting zt and soon there our secret out out and others guild began to zt hunt also... eventually DD was able to get relic and we both have to fight to get sabuk but then there was invisible archer bug so then we both couldn't get in. Later on we both guild have to fight for sabuk wall again but this time the date and time was fuked up again so then THO lost cuz 2/3 of member was offline. GM return relics to both side The third attemp we lost due to their amount of high lv and allies. (we could have take them on 1 on 1)

Its was a down time that we lose the wall and members began to leave our guild and move to the new owner of SW guild. THO once again have a second try and prepare this time, I did everything I could to win SW legaly and righfuly And yes I did recruit over 60 members in 4 day increase the guild pop up to 120s at a price of pay now or later. My intention was bringin entertainment to everyone so that they could get a piece of action in the war since this is the 2nd sabuk war. Alot of ppl joined our Holy cause and we got lots of alliance include one of our 100% support HandofGod (and still is today) and yes we outnumber them 3 to 1. Eventho they got more dragonsword user while our army consis of 40% below lv22 and 40% usin power axe but we manage to take SW.

once we owned sabuk war, the cause has ended ppl began to look for new cause.. which made the guild fall apart, Because many of our high lv player such as Robberrt, Trokanda... began to split apart because the guild is soo big that the Find from hunt wont be able to support everyone needs. Thats when TheInnerCircle and Toxic(something) created. By that time its also THO golden age and prosperity flourish so then I resign my Leader position and began to focus on lvlin....

Some of the things I've learned is have guild hunt often its help build friendship and bond between everyone. Also if such case happend where one of your member being accuse of doin some thing that he did/didn't do (it doesnt matter) as a leader you have to back him up with everything once done u can boot or keep him afterward. Its something that your fellow member will look up to you knowing u always got their back if they got in trouble. (one of the reason JJ87 is in guild "krazy bastard")


some of the stuff above i might got wrong since it has been so long.. I wont mind if u'r correct or add in anything.

also I like to give a shout out to LUNA!, STONEMAGE, DEALREAL, DOOMSDAVE, DUCKBILL, TROKANDA, ENEAH, COOKIE, JJ87, SUCKY, TRACE!, LUIGUI, BUG... sorry if i miss anyone.. that's all i could think top of my head


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Joel
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/31/2001 :  09:10:39  Show Profile  Visit Joel's Homepage  Send Joel an ICQ Message  Send Joel an instant message
quote:

In my career as THO leader

I've learn a few things that turn THO successful and a enjoyable guild that's everyone likes.

A guild leader must have Integrity and respect also a good sense of humor and balance.

When Stonemage asked me for a promotion as Guild leader I wasn't sure I was the right one. He picked me because I was one of five original member Cullen,Eneah,Stonemage,AZN,Dealreal (hope I got that right) also I was the highest lv Warrior in guild at the time and I was always online.

So then I got off at a right foot since everyone accepted my promotion w/o Jealous and think I deserve it. Soon I started to recruit bunch of ppl that hunt in the same zone as me so now we have companion in the same hunting zone. Most of the guild was lookin up to me cuz of how fast lvler I was. At that time my rival were MiDHA, bushimon, NOMAD, thedeath. Those time were the best of my mir life because I have many goals.. catchin up to MiDHA, hurry to lv28 to use dragonsword and constant ZT, WT hunt pluz at that time we just began to migrant to bug cave.

Things began to turn sweet and sour when the Massdrop patch release where ZT can now summon lot of mobs, mine being overcrowded by zombie and bugcave is so much more. At the first day of the patch was the difficultest of MIR year because ppl couldn't find solution to adapt new enviroment.. well later warriors began to use corner to hunt ( I did and got lvled very fast! ) as for wizard began to tame maggots and roam bug cave and tao is still in very difficult time.

As for THO it grew strong more than ever. Me and stonemage tryin to take on ZT soo many time but failed and tryin to find a solution to kill ZT we spended countless hour attemp on ZT but failed. Finally we were able to use the log in/out idea and corner as combination
we killed ZT got relic and earned Sabuk wall. After that we keep on hunting zt and soon there our secret out out and others guild began to zt hunt also... eventually DD was able to get relic and challege us. They won by their amount of high lv and allies. (we could have take them on 1 on 1)

Its was a down time that we lose the wall and members began to leave our guild and move to the new owner of SW guild. And yes I did recruit over 60 members in 4 day increase the guild pop up to 120s at a price of pay now or later. My intention was bringin entertainment to everyone so that they could get a piece of action in the war since this is the 2nd sabuk war. Alot of ppl joined our Holy cause and we got lots of alliance include one of our 100% support HandofGod (and still is today) and yes we outnumber them 3 to 1. Eventho they got more dragonsword user while our army consis of 40% below lv22 and 40% usin power axe but we manage to take SW.

once we owned sabuk war, the cause has ended ppl began to look for new cause.. which made the guild fall apart, Because many of our high lv player such as Robberrt, Trokanda... began to split apart because the guild is soo big that the Find from hunt wont be able to support everyone needs. Thats when TheInnerCircle and Toxic(something) created. By that time its also THO golden age and prosperity flourish so then I resign my Leader position and began to focus on lvlin....

Some of the things I've learned is have guild hunt often its help build friendship and bond between everyone. Also if such case happend where one of your member being accuse of doin some thing that he did/didn't do (it doesnt matter) as a leader you have to back him up with everything once done u can boot or keep him afterward. Its something that your fellow member will look up to you knowing u always got their back if they got in trouble. (one of the reason JJ87 is in guild "krazy bastard")


some of the stuff above i might got wrong since it has been so long.. I wont mind if u'r correct or add in anything.

also I like to give a shout out to LUNA!, STONEMAGE, DEALREAL, DOOMSDAVE, DUCKBILL, TROKANDA, ENEAH, COOKIE, JJ87, SUCKY, TRACE!, LUIGUI, BUG... sorry if i miss anyone.. that's all i could think top of my head


------- RASTILIN -------
-= www.cynicwarez.com =-
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If u likes game that suck, This one for you
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enembius
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Posted - 01/01/2002 :  01:48:08  Show Profile  Visit enembius's Homepage  Send enembius an ICQ Message
dammit duckbill, godfather i wanna talk to you people in game ffs do I have to join your guilds to do that??????????????

ur the people I've been looking for for so long!!!!

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Duckbill
Average Member


United Kingdom
698 Posts
Posted - 01/01/2002 :  04:10:43  Show Profile
quote:

dammit duckbill, godfather i wanna talk to you people in game ffs do I have to join your guilds to do that??????????????

ur the people I've been looking for for so long!!!!

Awaiting server shutdown.


You already done that.

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Duckbill
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United Kingdom
698 Posts
Posted - 01/01/2002 :  04:32:42  Show Profile
There are many things to take care of when you are becoming a guild leader...

1. You have to be able to Command
2. Be fair to your people
3. Create fun

Command... ask Enembius remind me ingame, this is to be used during some worse situation. For instant, before a lot of people can get to ST 7F, it was almost spawn with a lot of mobs and boss mobs included. My guild (NIGHTMARE) is a small guild, and I remember we had 10 people in their that day, and the ST 7F was empty (must be the big spawn killed everyone). We started off from stairs with a WEB, then another one came. Gambit and our wizards managed to killed them no problem, and he suggested that we should keep to the walls. About half way through we run into about 8-10 bugmaggots, and it was getting out of hand. (This is where the leader comes in) I tell them to get back and leave them alone, then a few WEB spawn right after. I supposed it was the best option to get away instead of wasting all that time to kill BBM and get back stab by WEB. At the end, we found ES, but drops was crap. Anyway...

Fair... it doesn't really mean a lot in MIR anyway, but I believed that it worked in my guild somehow. I know most people playing this game are mostly greedy (only a few of them), they want everything. What I did... I have a storage of items, which to people in MIR is nothing but crap, but to my guild they all happy about it. So, I ask for 10-15k for guild fund in exchange to that rare items, and make sure they use it instead of selling it. It did work, but I guess giving it out for free is better.

Fun... well you know, if your members is happy, guild leader will be happy too.

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Disley
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Posted - 01/01/2002 :  19:39:22  Show Profile  Send Disley an ICQ Message  Send Disley an instant message
there are many things that makes a good guild leader, but sometimes u have to do just be more cunning, not necessarily do much, but make it look like your doing a lot

all guild leaders are different and run things different ways. some like to get respect by being a crazily high level, others (like me) believe in the pen being mightier than the sword approach. some like to build up a guild slowly, some like to hit the scene and be immensely strong fast as possible (like me)

i was gonna make a huge post here but im too tired too really, il do it later

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Disley
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Posted - 01/01/2002 :  20:01:36  Show Profile  Send Disley an ICQ Message  Send Disley an instant message
one key thing iv always thought is to at all times never look desperate

for me thats the one most important thing, stay and look cool at all times, no matter what is happening

also if someone threatens to leave the guild, just say "ok cya then", and if they keep complaining kick them yourself

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Duckbill
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Posted - 01/01/2002 :  23:20:51  Show Profile
WOOHOO, an ex-member just come back to guild and said "Finally, back to the best guild."

I am so happy.

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Ostle iam the guild master for the cool guild blackandwhite we have be a guild for 6 months now we where one of the first guild in thre game.

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Duckbill
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quote:

one key thing iv always thought is to at all times never look desperate

for me thats the one most important thing, stay and look cool at all times, no matter what is happening

also if someone threatens to leave the guild, just say "ok cya then", and if they keep complaining kick them yourself

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I do that all the time, and they come back for hunts sometimes, I guess that's what we called Respect.

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enembius
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Posted - 01/02/2002 :  11:26:05  Show Profile  Visit enembius's Homepage  Send enembius an ICQ Message
Xer0n by any chance? He's the guy Toobad pk'ed outside WT lol... lets get revenge ;)

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Duckbill
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Posted - 01/02/2002 :  16:47:54  Show Profile
But he is a well cool member though.

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Disley
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Posted - 01/02/2002 :  21:47:16  Show Profile  Send Disley an ICQ Message  Send Disley an instant message
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battlemaster Ostle iam the guild master for the cool guild blackandwhite we have be a guild for 6 months now we where one of the first guild in thre game.

Ostle- guild master
lv up is not easy
Guild master for blackandwhite guild
looking for guild allied plz help us


yeh, just a shame theres nobody in it now eh?

quote:
I do that all the time, and they come back for hunts sometimes, I guess that's what we called Respect.

lol, i dont think iv ever had many come back to join on hunts. im not a very high level really (25) and that aint gonna command any respect as other guild leaders might try and do (by lving 24/7 til they lv32+) so i gotta let ppl know who is the big cheese in other ways. iv had a guy in my guild say before that if he wanted to he could kill me, i say "go on then" cos i know he wouldnt

cos we both know if he did, he would get pked far more times than i would. one of my aims is to become one of the more powerful players in LOM, not necessarily by being highest level, but letting other players know that your pretty much untouchable, cos otherwise they would be pked to hell and back

but then, thats how i like to run things

actually im not near that stage yet, guild aint big or strong enough yet. i played another game called starkingdoms where i reached that kinda position. everyone knew who i was, and eventually a team of assassin type players joined forces and all attacked my simultaneously, and killed me in a night. if you die on that game your dead totally and have to restart from scratch, this i did, msged my friends with the guys who hit me, totally wiped out 15 kingdoms in one night

its kinda hard to relate to that since you have never played the game, goto www.starkingdoms.com if u really want to see what im getting at

its all about respect and reputation, which is why i find it funny when ppl post saying "join my guild please, we are desperate and have no members, plsplsplsplspls"

sorry for long drawnout post, iv been drinking and aint thinking as straight as usual (think im doing ok typo wise tho)

well, u get my point anywayz

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battlemaster
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  23:24:50  Show Profile  Visit battlemaster's Homepage
Disley the blackandwhite guild had over 150 members when itfirst started everyone does that .
LOts of ppl come on by guild hunts
blackandwhite as has 5 guilds wars and win all of them
Disley you are crap guild master because you are not in the game you are always on the forums 24/7

Ostle- guild master
lv up is not easy
Guild master for blackandwhite guild
looking for guild allied plz help us.
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