His equip:

SpiritBlade - DC8-20 A.Speed -1 Acc +(3?)
DragonRings - DC0-5
RecallNeck - DC2-4
And I forget which bracer, maybe a 1-3 DeathGaunt??

Point being, his DC was as high as mine at one point, and if you ppl would shut up long enough to see him take off 1/10 a Warriors HP per hit, youd understand there is a solution for you Tao's.

"Oh! WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO BE RICH TO BED GOOD!?"

BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE RICH TO BE GOOD FFS! All classes do. I wear easly 8 mil in equipment which I have to replace once a week cause of durability. So dont gimme that crap about you needing money to be good, we all do, Wiz's included.

(Yes, I have a lvl 27 Tao, and I know your delima so dont say I dont know what Im talking about.)

And, his is the only spirit blade i've seen (I guess there are a couple more), he can't carry a dragon sword and warrior can... and so on...

And there are not too many rich Taos around.

RentAHeal

i'd rather be killed by a mob and feel proud i died fighting, instead of killed by a pk knowing i died screaming

BUT then he have the problem with his healing and other spell sucking alot cause of his grand total of SC0-2 on the soul armor

Bengosu

"All your base...
http://www.stileproject.com/base.html
...Are belong to us"

Its only use is to lure enemies.. so its rubbish! just like every other spell we get...

Only if we have a level 7 skelly with us do we have a slightest chance. Btw if you want to test it, I can duel you in the contest room with my shinsu :) Although Im 4 levels higher than you (according to your signature) I bet I would be dead not before long, if you want to make it fair. Just wear crap equippment yourself.

DivAvenger level 35 Taoist (0.1%)

A good taoist isnt one that wears as much DC as they possibly can, it's a taoist that goes for all SC. The greater the SC, the more stronger the heals are, the powerful soul fire ball is. SC skills last longer and are much stronger and poison actually hurts when you have a high SC.

Taoists are of course the best class as they can switch from SC and DC alike. But it doesnt just take DC to kill a warrior as a toaist. A high SC - stronger soul fire ball / poison and less times needed to heal as each heal is stronger.

It depends on the character, the more selfish taoist goes for the full-out DC, as his SC has little impact on others. With the taoist being the main member in a group the tao should go for max SC and max DC (if he/she really wants to) solo.

But that's just my 6am oppinion

hehe

"All your base...
http://www.stileproject.com/base.html
...Are belong to us"

As for SC/DC issue... If you tell all-DC Tao that he/she should start a warrior, then tell all-SC Tao to start a wizard. We suck both ways. The solution is to go with mixed equipment, but it's useful only in ST (black boars - low AMC, red boars - low AC). I used to go with 2 sets of equipment, add amulets, and there's not much room for pots.

Oh, as for "no warrior would fight me", I'll get mine to 22 and be happy to fight you. Usually it happens in small spaces, once a warrior hits you, you are, basically, dead. You can poison and fireball all you want (if you can). Well, they don't run away, so I don't know about them, but wizards recover from the hit much faster than we do (meaning, we can't start running right after we are hit).

Before someone goes "you are an idiot", on group hunts, I wear SC only, and I rarely jump in (maybe to distract a mob or two, that's it). I know my place in the group. But, when I'm solo, I ***CAN'T AFFORD*** to go all-SC. I'm virtually broke all the time! Imagine me going around spending pots on fireballs... I don't think so.

Again, thread is about warriorTao against a real warrior, and I think we stand no chance.

RentAHeal

I am a level 20 tao and I almost beat a level 23 war in the contest room - he used pots and i never aswell. It has to be that you just are too lazy to soul fireball them - it's easy but weak so it takes a long time, what I done was I made a skelle and SFB'd the war, then my skelle was fighting him, I stood far away healing skelle and SFBing the war, then skelle died and the war chased me so I made another skelle, healed and SFBd until skelle died and so on - the war hit me about 3 time before I thought I may aswell fight hand to hand as it was only a friendly competion - just for a laugh, so I made a skelle and ran up to the war and started hitting him for a while... Then died, but he admitted he had used 2 hp pots and I never used any (I said before the fight not to use any but he must not have seen that).

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A strong Taoist isnt about causing the most damage (having a high DC) It's about having a high SC. Joshua has a strong DC but will suck in a large group. Soul Class is what makes the taoist strong, not DC. DC helps if you want to level faster by hitting stuff with a blade (i.e. a warrior that wants the ability to heal/summon etc).
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It seems that I'm one of the "don't know how to play my class" Taos, but I can't take a warrior or a wizard of my level in PvP going full SC, full DC, or mixed. Maybe it's my connection... who knows... But the outcome of the battle should not be based on the FPS skills, but on players' stats, which is not the case. And this is supposed to be an RPG based on AD&D... right :P

RentAHeal

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any tao at any lvl cannot beat a warrior of the same lvl wearing the same items.

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i completely disagree with that
i(lev 18 tao) killed a warrior who was wearing steel sword and it was easy. while figting for few minutes he only did slaying 2-4 times and missed every time

and no i didnt run away and SFB him(the bastard attacked when i had only few amulets left) and on lev 18 i dont even have skeleton

Styn

Good luck to you

I know Tao's kill that bit slower, but we do kill, and we have the massive advantage on healing... So what I'm saying is, so long as a tao can draw the battle out long enough, make sure he's not taking on to much at once, there shouldn't be much he can't kill... :)
Including other players, same lvl or not....

OK, so the theory isn't easy to prove and depends on situation at time, but with the Tao's it's so much more about strategy..

I mentioned taking on 4 Zom's, wow, big deal, I'm lvl 18, but that
was all at once.. Whats more normal is to walk round a corner and
lure them round 1 by 1 and hope the buggers stay down... If I do
it that way then I can keep killing them till something goes wrong :) Like the next regen and they all appear behind me as well!!

As to the SC / DC route... Thats up to you, and what type of Tao U
want... I go for the SC, Cos I'm a TAO!! But it's nice to have the choice..

As to the analogy about 3 tao's vs 3 warr's....
Lets change it slightly :) 5 warr's + 1 Tao Vs 6 Warr's.. all same
lvl... Who wants to be on the side with out the Tao??

Tao's R Great, Just takes a little time to kill things... :(

Secondly, tao healing - I found that the time taken to do one heal = time taken to take a hit from the mob so I didn't bother using heal with Quillian, I used pots like a warrior.

Thirdly EE you are a warrior and you seem to think having seen one tao take off a bit of your hp that all taos can do the same. You quite rightly pointed out he has a lot of good stuff, and hardly any taos have all those items, or would sacrifice their SC in order to have them.

I still believe that lots of DC for a tao isn't that great if he's surrounded by bugs and his SC related offensive skills suck. High DC helps nothing if you can't even hit a mob because of being hit by 7 others.

As for the pk'ing thing... why do you even try to find out? You shouldn't be pk'ing in the first place it's not right.

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Secondly, tao healing - I found that the time taken to do one heal = time taken to take a hit from the mob

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And i see that i am only 3 posts far from my first star
i hope my post been useful to some... ;))

cheers all

No where did it say that we chose the class that takes longest to level up, because it takes longest for em to kill anything.

And what do you mean by swap? Swap my level 35 Taoist for a level 1 wizard or a level 1 Warrior Yea right. First you level up to 35 and swap to a level 1 Taoist or a level 1 Wizard, then come back here and say we can swap at any time. It is not as easy as that.

DivAvenger level 35 Taoist

ONLY 2 MORE DAYZ TO PATCH DAY!!
THEN WE FIND OUT WHAT DEVELOPERS THINK TAO'S GESERVE....

Hehehe
Should be a laugh an a half :)

We need PvP skill at least to some extent, or we may as well play on non-PK server (I don't thimnk many people would like that idea).

RentAHeal

My point is a properly equiped tao can hunt any where a warrior can, AND have the benefit of heal and skeleton. Maybe your heal wont do as much, but you wont need it even half as much anyway.

Tao's own if you know what your doing. Same goes for all the classes.

so there's noway a tao can beat warrior in 1vs1 duel at same lv

one more thing.. u cant heal and hit at the same time
pluz u'r probably wearing dc gear to duel with warrior so then your heal are crap. and by that time Warrior probably got 350hp (average)

in conclusion.. the duel will lead to Who got most pot win (obviously warrior since they can carry like 20 bundle

oh yeah 4 smack with judgement mace.. skele a gonner
so just switch on half moon and skel will die (eventually)

also for yellow poison (i dont think u'll have enuf time to switch back and forth)

still warrior BORING!!

TAOS DONT SUCKS.
And if you say TAOS suck try to play as other class(if you are tao) dont moan about how bad taos are.

AS EE said TAOS rules.

Ahhahahahaha! Damn I'm good. Not!

My lvl 21 wears 2 skelly rings, strain with SC, armour with DC, skelly helm, and an axe if I want DC3-30, or just use a Steel with Inten+1, Acc+1, DC+1, (it has MC+1 but thats worthless).. i just dualed with a lvl 21 warrior today, wearing less DC items than me and he still won (only because his HP was higher than mine.. He was about 2/3 dead).

-da dc pimp

if i can almost kill a lvl 28 warrior without using spells.. what could i do if i was using spells...

*note the warrior got to use all his "skills" as it was.

Taoists.. we are very different than other people.. others.. you dont need good items to be good.. you can have levels..

BUT a taoist MUST have good items to be good.

Yeah taoists do rule, one thing I have noticed however is how long they take to level when compared to other characters. I have access, and have played level 26 taoists (myself), wizards and now warriors. The wizard seemed to level the quickest (admittedly due to using 5 black maggots so I actually didnt _have_ to do much), then the warrior levels quite quickly, so far gaining 40% in a matter of hours. My taoist seems to levels the slowest, but when you consider its abilities, it is still an excellent character.

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My lvl 21 wears 2 skelly rings, strain with SC, armour with DC, skelly helm, and an axe if I want DC3-30, or just use a Steel with Inten+1, Acc+1, DC+1, (it has MC+1 but thats worthless).. i just dualed with a lvl 21 warrior today, wearing less DC items than me and he still won (only because his HP was higher than mine.. He was about 2/3 dead).

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