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AgentJohnJ
Junior Member
United Kingdom
137 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 08:50:08
see Qunos's post. This is a serious matter especially as he is on NTL and has static IP
Mir are so crapLord Vader
Currently Aboard The Victory III Super Star Destroyer Edited by - AgentJohnJ on 01/08/2002 08:51:07 |
robj9460
Average Member
563 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 08:58:24
Why did Legz post it?????
"I'm innocent FFS"
Elite Healer
-*EX*-
TrueFamily |
Lippo
Advanced Member
Finland
2076 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 09:00:38
http://www.livewiregames.net/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=2&ARCHIVEVIEW=&TOPIC_ID=52539quote:
You'dd be amazed how cooperative NTL.COM is when confronted with the public confessions of one of their users hacking activities..."Surrender_AND_Die!" : Legz KSElders-Guild Master
AgentJohnJ, You scared too? LMFAO, stupid! Woo wooo, he said he hacked and then he SHOULD be protected by
law, nfw! And when victim (Legz) start legal actions against
this hacker then the hacker is NOT protected by this law! /LippoW Censored by Mandatory ruling
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Assasins Death Herald
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robj9460
Average Member
563 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 09:12:56
Nice 1 Legz, Hacking In the UK is a Crime, wether it be a game or somebodys home pc. Take the feker for all he has."I'm innocent FFS" Elite Healer
-*EX*-
TrueFamily |
Squalion
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1906 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 09:16:05
Lippo that ain't right.If the criminal hasn't been found guilty (ie - convicted etc etc)
then they have a right to anomymosity (SP?)...like when on TV you
see those criminals outside of court, their faces get blanked out. 'And there came about 20-30 Koreans around me yelling "PENIS KING!!!"' - Xanneh |
Hawkwynde
Junior Member
United Kingdom
492 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 09:20:45
These forums are hosted in Italy and come under Italian Law to my knowledge.So as long as Legz hasn't contravened any Italian laws regarding data protection by posting personal data on a forum member then he's done nothing wrong and UK Data Protection Laws don't come into force here. My knowledge of the Italian Data Protection Act (Shuddupa Ya Face Acto 1989 maybe?) is a bit sketchy though.
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Lippo
Advanced Member
Finland
2076 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 09:31:11
quote:
Lippo that ain't right.If the criminal hasn't been found guilty (ie - convicted etc etc)
then they have a right to anomymosity (SP?)...like when on TV you
see those criminals outside of court, their faces get blanked out. 'And there came about 20-30 Koreans around me yelling "PENIS KING!!!"' - Xanneh
You have some wise laws in UK, he claimed that he hacked that account!
He got to be man enough to stand behind his words and not hide behind
some 'no can tell because bullsh1t' law. Do journalists in UK get covered by this law too?
Or people informing a lie to a journalist?
Remember HE publicly confessed he did that! /LippoW Censored by Mandatory ruling
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iNgUmA
Junior Member
Spain
129 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 10:11:26
I'm not a hacker not an specialist in TCP/IP matters, but the info LegZ posted seems to be the result of a traceroute command to a public IP address, with only the public information of the ISP shown. I think the email addreses shown there belong to that ISPs SysOp and Administrator. And that's public info. Correct me if i'm wrong but that's what it seems to be."Get away from me!
Take heed to thyself and see my face no more!
for in the day Thou see my face
Thou shalt die!"
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Eccles
Starting Member
Kazakhstan
42 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 14:18:11
Legz hasn't broken any law, UK or otherwise. Publishing an email address is not illegal. Now if he had published his name, address and telephone number, THAT would be illegal*. * but entirely forgiveable in my view 
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Women need a reason - men just need a place
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Azal
Junior Member
271 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 14:47:41
You can get the same info from someones email address, see my reply in the original topic.http://195.219.58.100/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=56580 "All I know is that I'm being sued for unfair business practices by Microsoft. Hello pot? It's kettle on line two." |
Eccles
Starting Member
Kazakhstan
42 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 15:46:08
quote:
You can get the same info from someones email address, see my reply in the original topic.
Immaterial. He didn't actually publish those details.
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Women need a reason - men just need a place
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Ratty_uk
Junior Member
United Kingdom
204 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 15:55:01
Just to clear this up a little.....
I posted the so called hackers real email address in the thread he created :- http://www.livewiregames.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=56165
I got this info from his public forum profile.
This topic was locked not long after so I asSume that the mods did have a good look at it.
Legz has done nothing wrong by posting details which anybody can get hold of.
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Legz
Moderator
Netherlands
1067 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 16:13:15
Thanks for your support all :)And you other guys i realy don't blame for being misslead and ignorant. But if you are ignorant on a matter .... pls shut your traphole! Go and do your Homework! "Surrender_AND_Die!" : Legz KSElders-Guild Master |
SaKoPeePee
New Member
United Kingdom
54 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 16:46:38
lol whos never broke the law?
mabye if u lower than age of 5 its ok but after that u must break a law... its just not right
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Azal
Junior Member
271 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 19:25:21
quote:
quote:
You can get the same info from someones email address, see my reply in the original topic.
Immaterial. He didn't actually publish those details.
Moron.
I never said he did publish that I said you can get the info he posted from someones email address. think beforeyou post "All I know is that I'm being sued for unfair business practices by Microsoft. Hello pot? It's kettle on line two." |
Qunos
Junior Member
United Kingdom
137 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 19:26:50
quote:
So as long as Legz hasn't contravened any Italian laws regarding data protection by posting personal data on a forum member then he's done nothing wrong and UK Data Protection Laws don't come into force here.
Since the person he published the information on lives in the UK then it's international law that Legz is breaking quote:
Woo wooo, he said he hacked and then he SHOULD be protected by
law, nfw! And when victim (Legz) start legal actions against
this hacker then the hacker is NOT protected by this law!
A well known saying springs to mind... Two wrongs DON'T make a right. Legz posted his unqieu IP address (personally identifiable information, breaches law when permission was not asked) he posted other information like ISP details and e-mail address that's personally identifiable but doesn't go against the law but it is VERY rude to not ask to post those bits first as well ------------------------------------------------
From Bill
Level 29 Taoist |
Azal
Junior Member
271 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 19:36:57
Legz didn't do anything illegal."All I know is that I'm being sued for unfair business practices by Microsoft. Hello pot? It's kettle on line two." |
jma379
Starting Member
United Kingdom
5 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 19:43:44
If it was upto me I'd put up the hackers name and address, We dont need that type of person here in MIR, Its supposed to be fun if u cant play fair...DONT PLAY
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Eccles
Starting Member
Kazakhstan
42 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 21:41:38
quote:
Moron.
What a charming comment. quote:
I never said he did publish that I said you can get the info he posted from someones email address.think beforeyou post
I did think. And given the subject of this thread your comments were indeed immaterial. Perhaps you should think more precisely about what you post before you do so. The thread is about Legz alleged illegal actions, not about how details can be found. I fail to see what your attempt at insult is trying to achieve. It appears that we both believe that Legz's action was correct and legal. --
Women need a reason - men just need a place |
Qunos
Junior Member
United Kingdom
137 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2002 : 22:20:41
quote:
Legz didn't do anything illegal.
Breached the Data Protection Act that was recently updated to include even more electronic data protection. quote:
If it was upto me I'd put up the hackers name and address, We dont need that type of person here in MIR, Its supposed to be fun if u cant play fair...DONT PLAY
He hacked, he did something illegal (if he took it by force, if it was given then it was NOT hacked) but I am not on about that person. I am on about Legz posting identifiable information about a person that is illegal to post without permission. Also if I look in the Snitz (forum) Terms & Conditions I am CERTAIN that it breaches the freeware terms & Conditions and therefore if someone was to report them to Snitz they would be FORCED to remove the forum immediately, or at minimum ban Legz as a moderator. ------------------------------------------------
From Bill
Level 29 Taoist |
Legz
Moderator
Netherlands
1067 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2002 : 00:34:54
Guys! COMMON! NTL.COM uses DYNAMIC IP's! (Not unique to ANYONE but the owner (NTL.COM))His E-mail address?? HE DID PUT THAT IN HIS PROFILE HIMSELF!
Now... If i were to post his home address and telephone number...
Yeah that would be indeed be against the law.
So I would keep those details for my personal pleasure. hehehe 
"Surrender_AND_Die!" : Legz KSElders-Guild Master Edited by - Legz on 01/09/2002 00:35:49 |
Eccles
Starting Member
Kazakhstan
42 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2002 : 01:30:46
quote:
Breached the Data Protection Act that was recently updated to include even more electronic data protection.
To breach the Data Protection Act one must be bound by it. Legz isn't. Legz did not publish anything that is not in the public domain. Furthermore his actions do not come under the auspices of the DPA 1998 as Legz is a Dutch citizen posting on an Italian server. Perhaps you should download the DPA1998 http://www.dataprotection.gov.uk/dpa98.pdf before you make any further faux pas and possibly breach libel laws yourself.
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Women need a reason - men just need a place
Edited by - eccles on 01/09/2002 01:35:38 |
Azal
Junior Member
271 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2002 : 01:46:50
Qunos posting globally available public knowledge isn't illegal."All I know is that I'm being sued for unfair business practices by Microsoft. Hello pot? It's kettle on line two." |
MirsGoingDownCrapper
Starting Member
4 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2002 : 03:44:43
qunos and agentjohnj are ****ting there pants cause they got caught
lol
oh well tuff **** i hope legz andlom nails you asshole to the wall
and since amercians conect to mir wouldnt that be considered over seas
computer fraud......if it is you guys should really be ****ting your pants cause now its an FBI matter lol
"its the gms they are corrupt,and they should be punished"
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Hawklord
Junior Member
Australia
392 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2002 : 07:32:19
quote:
Legz posted his unqieu IP address (personally identifiable information, breaches law when permission was not asked) he posted other information like ISP details and e-mail address that's personally identifiable but doesn't go against the law but it is VERY rude to not ask to post those bits first as well
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From Bill
Level 29 Taoist
Is it as rude as hacking someone's account and then bragging to all and sundry about it? Grow up and let this little pr1ck get what's coming to him! Hawklord
The Brotherhood of Steel |
