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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  13:54:58  Show Profile  Send mud an ICQ Message

Wizards & Killing Woomatorus!!!

hi all...

this is my first post in the forums...
iam a Mud.. a wizard..

do u really think that woomatorus couldnt be killed by magic??
well.. personally... I DONT..!!!!!!!!!!!!!

woomatorus is like any other mob.. it could be killed with magic only.
its just something all players believed at the beginning of mir..

thats it!

so wot do u think??
wot about a group of wizards to kill woomatorus!?!?

MajinVegeta
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  14:10:30  Show Profile
I think a lot of wizards have already killed wt, im not sure i could be wrong, i think they can even solo 1 pretty easy if they can get it behind a corner.

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Humble1
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  15:49:15  Show Profile
If WT was cornered or somehow couldn't reach the wizard, of course he could solo it. But the fact is, the spawn of other Woomas in the KR pretty much stops a group of wizards only to kill WT, because a wizard has to run and bolt, run and bolt... etc etc.
I suppose it's possible, but the warriors would have to clean up the spawn for the wizards for that to be possible I"d say.

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Pyrotic
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  15:53:46  Show Profile  Visit Pyrotic's Homepage  Send Pyrotic an ICQ Message
wts can be killed with magic.

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Azal
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  16:01:36  Show Profile
Just as easy with a wizard, wiz are better at clearing the spawns too. And can kill WT a helluva lot faster than wars

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Azal
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  16:03:22  Show Profile
The ppl that say wizards can't kill WT are the same ones that think wizards can't (or shouldn't) hit Whiteboar/Evilsnake etc because they are too stupid for their own good. A couple of names in particular spring to mind

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Magicdude
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  16:07:38  Show Profile  Send Magicdude an ICQ Message
Wizards can solo pretty much everything, but if there are 2+ high level warriors in the group the wizards should clear the woomas and not hit the WT.

It might take the warriors longer to kill the WT but at least they are not running everywhere.

Same with WEBs, if wizards hit them then the boars go for them, meaning the warriors cant even touch it, and then when the boar gets to the wizzard, boom, wiz on the floor dead.

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Duckbill
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  16:25:40  Show Profile
Of couse Wizard can kill WT, it is only the warriors who is stopping you. T Bolt it, don't let the warriors get them all the time, wizard and tao deserves a bit of fun in WT KR.

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Khalmandur
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  16:37:08  Show Profile
WiZ with Magic Shield and Tstorm can Kill WT so fast Wars have no idea...

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Azal
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  16:39:11  Show Profile
quote:

Wizards can solo pretty much everything, but if there are 2+ high level warriors in the group the wizards should clear the woomas and not hit the WT.

Or the Wiz could take it on while the warriors clear the woomas.

quote:

Same with WEBs, if wizards hit them then the boars go for them, meaning the warriors cant even touch it, and then when the boar gets to the wizzard, boom, wiz on the floor dead.

Warriors can carry on hitting the WB even if a wiz is bolting it, unless they are stupid. Ask anyone that ever goes down to ST 7th with me it's perfectly possible.
I agree wizards that don't move or aren't very good do tend to die very quickly from WB, but don't group us all in the same class.

The bit about warriors not being able to hit them, sorry but that's utter crap...unless your talking about people that really can't play properly - I stick with people I know I can rely on which is maybe why they don't have that problem.

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Magicdude
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  16:45:47  Show Profile  Send Magicdude an ICQ Message
You are not very clever Azal.

Wizards need to keep moving to kill a boss, WT, WEB, ES, the more they move the more monsters will get lured.

If they stand still and help clear smaller mobs while the warriors keep the boss busy it is better for both classes.

If a wizard takes on WT and the warriors have to clear the woomas, then by the time the wizard has killed WT the warriors would be dead because of all the woomas you lured.

And monsters attack whatever is doing the most damage, if WT was alone in the KR and there was a wizard and 2 warriors attacking it then the WT will go after the Wizard, and the WT moves fast and when it goes turbo it will over run the wizard and kill him.


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bluesaber
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  16:51:38  Show Profile  Send bluesaber an ICQ Message  Send bluesaber an instant message
YES IT CAN BE DONE

me and my m8 rickcrim from phonix made a group for wt as we only had 1 war(me) and 4 mages we decided to try mage kill.

take him to the lower passage with war and get him in corner eshoch him there till brown till everyone is rdy then the mages tbolt it while the war blocks him from mage and if he gets close to mages they eshock him and start again it does work

oh btw take a tao lol i died only 23 at the time

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Calen
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  16:52:58  Show Profile
Seems a little strange to me that most of you are talking about a wiz doing WT solo.

There is not 1 class that can solo it well and that because it was never meant to be done that way. WT is a group kill mob and a small group of wiz's would kick its ass.

In fact a small group of any class can do it, but like most things a mixed group is better.

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m1metal
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  17:02:40  Show Profile
Im sure a wiz could kill the WT solo, 1 on 1, but as other ppl have said WT KR is even harder now because the spawn rate has gone up.

The best and proven tactic is to have 4 warriors attacking WT in a cleared space, the Tao's Healing the warriors and the wiz's clearing the mobs and e-shocking the WT also.

Another way is to take a corner and have taos covering wiz's and warriors covering the taos, while 1 lures to the corner. Like this,

m m t w
m t w
t w
w

m - mage, t - tao, w - warrior

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bluesaber
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  17:08:19  Show Profile  Send bluesaber an ICQ Message  Send bluesaber an instant message
thats a ZT temple tactic m8

but its annoying when noobs run down and lure on u i know they cant help it but if they cant handle it they shouldnt go down there

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Magicdude
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  17:10:16  Show Profile  Send Magicdude an ICQ Message
I am not saying that a Wizard cant kill WT, ffs, how many times would be just me and a wiz in the KR and we had to kill it by me luring the WT to a corner, then the Wizard Tbolts it, I get back with the wizard while WT is stuck in the corner and I clear the rest of the woomas coming to get the wizard.

But the fact is that 2 warriors would be much easier.

I can kill WT with support from any other class, either a level 26+ warrior, or any tao with lvl 3 healing or any wizard with lvl 3 tbolt.

With wizard; I lure WT to corner, clear corridor for wizard, wizard tbolts wt in corner while I protect the wizard.

with tao; tao keeps heling me while I solo WT.

With another warrior; we beat the crap out of WT.


Easiest way: with another warrior.

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Guyv
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  18:12:12  Show Profile  Visit Guyv's Homepage
they can kill it!

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Benpearse
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  18:35:15  Show Profile
I never heard such crap in all my life!!!!!

I am a wiz and put it this way.. make sure you have high amc and m shield and a tao!!!

That's all u need.. all i needed anyways.. I never got hurt too bad by wt with m shield.. no need to run about.. I can kill wt with 1 warrior in about 40 odd secs..

I stand right next to him and bolt the crap outta him..

Then there's no running about.. he ain't ever killed me since i had m shield!!

When me and my guild go to the KR it's usually me and 3 warriors who kill him.. we just box him in then kill him..

no tele nothing he just dies... usually v quick with no fuss..

and hopefully b4 any one else comes to 'Help' as they put it!!!


Hope that clears up some confusion

and by the way magicdude... if i had the choice btween hunting with you and Azal...

Well put it this way... magic who?


Azal has a vast amount of experience in this game..

probably been to KR more times than you've had hot dinners!!!

So when you reach his lvl then maybe you can call him stupid lolz

By the way you seen the items he has? you don't earn them by being stupid!!!

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Bimbo01
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  18:51:47  Show Profile  Visit Bimbo01's Homepage
Just to add to magicdudes comments. If a wizard wants to solo any boss then I think they have a right to(as long as its their boss mob i.e. if they found it first and have it under control). Also Wizards can easily kill any boss in the right circumstances. However when you have a group of people working cooperatively to kill a boss then there are alot of VERY STUPID things that some wizards do. WT KR is a prime example - I can't begin to count the number of times I've been with a group of warriors who have had WT in a nice quite part of the room with the spawn under control and just when its about to die, a wiz bolts it and it teleports to an area of the room crawling with Woomas and we then have to use x number of bundles trying to get back to it. It ruins it for everyone. WT KR must be a cooperative effort thats why the rule of 4 Warriors hitting WT while the rest clear spawn makes sense. At the end everyone who has helped kill WT (either clearing or hitting directly) has the right to take drops.

Also another thing I hate is when I'm killing a WEB on ST 7th and a wizzes just comes up and bolts it and then typically claims that they are 'helping', when all they have done is make it run after them luring all sorts of stuff and risking my life.

Another reason why its best for warriors to kill bosses is that if a wiz is hitting it, you never know where its going to die (often in a corner) and this means that u loose half of the drop because of walls. Warriors can keep the boss in one place and get the maximum area for a drop.

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Demonstar
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  18:54:16  Show Profile
IF THE WIZ IS A HIGHT LVL IT CAN SOLO NE THING

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invader_Zig
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  19:05:17  Show Profile
i dunno about WTKR but in ST 7th a good wiz can take 1/5 hp off a boar per hit with the boars regen it takes about 10 hits to kill it but if your in a good triangle formation it is an easy kill (BTW warriors in ST 7th need to drink so many pots if they dont have a wizzy with them it is unreal)

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bluesaber
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  19:29:17  Show Profile  Send bluesaber an ICQ Message  Send bluesaber an instant message
right the are adavantages to each char and disadvatages

war = strong, rich, powerful, better at lower lvl, great on hunts,loads of hp and weapons

boring,crappy spells,not many spells,always fighting with each other.obsessed with gr8 axes and wt,

wiz= ace at high lvls, loads of spells, are not boring, eshock

weak at lower lvls, think they can kill other classes but always end up runing away, cant kill bosses at lower lvls easily, expensive

tao= skelly, healing, loads of other spells usually rich,

hard to lvl, nowhere good to lvl at 20ish. barely any respect is given to them

this is my opinion of it and u porbally disagree but all classes come with a price and that can be a mages one

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PuRaTeCh2
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  19:42:53  Show Profile
Wizard and tao combo is so quick to kill WT, both wearing gold brace shamen and expels soul shielded for amc 30+. The WT barely touches them, the tao hits it mainly for the reason of staying close while the wiz stands next to it and t-storms it with magic shield. Tao casts mass hiding on the WT hiding you both so no more woomas attack, if they do the wiz can repulse them.

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Solidious
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  20:04:07  Show Profile  Send Solidious an instant message
ok here is y they say that.....if a wiz attacks WT wt will charge at him... making it if he dies...warrs wont get drop there.. so the warrs say this so they can be in CLOSEST range of the drop. how i know this??? my m8 started this rumor.. and i forgot..if a wiz hit WT first...they would get the EXP so warrs now have a all out chance of getting WT EXP.

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wizzzzzardbird
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  20:52:52  Show Profile
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You are not very clever Azal.



LOL thats the most stupid thing i ever heard......

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Azal
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  21:20:50  Show Profile
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You are not very clever Azal.


I'm speaking from experience, dunno where you get your definition of intelligence from but I do know what I'm talking about.
quote:

Wizards need to keep moving to kill a boss, WT, WEB, ES, the more they move the more monsters will get lured.

Not true, I can do it without moving.

quote:

If they stand still and help clear smaller mobs while the warriors keep the boss busy it is better for both classes.

Or the warriors can take on the smaller mobs whilst the wizards kill the boss 5 times quicker with less people luring spawned mobs into you because it takes 5 times less time to kill it.

quote:

If a wizard takes on WT and the warriors have to clear the woomas, then by the time the wizard has killed WT the warriors would be dead because of all the woomas you lured.

depends how crap they are, I know plenty of warriors i could rely on to keep the spawned mobs away while i finish the job. And if the same ammount of wizards took on WT as warriors the wizards could take on spawned mobs at the same time (don't believe me..you watch me varius stonemage, randie and dealreal in the KR one time)

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And monsters attack whatever is doing the most damage, if WT was alone in the KR and there was a wizard and 2 warriors attacking it then the WT will go after the Wizard, and the WT moves fast and when it goes turbo it will over run the wizard and kill him.

If you say so, I know better.

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Magicdude
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  21:23:41  Show Profile  Send Magicdude an ICQ Message
I dont care what you think Az, this is a stupid game anyways.

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Azal
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  21:26:52  Show Profile
p.s.

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But the fact is that 2 warriors would be much easier.

Even easier with 2 wizards killing WT. Ever seen 2 decent wiz play 'tennis' with mobs like WT/WB/ES ?

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Lust
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  21:41:12  Show Profile
Wiz's can kill WT, chuck magic sheild on and stand next to it with another wizard or a few and bolt it. It can be done. The stupid excuses of warriors don't hit WT it'll teleport, (when infact he only teleports when 5+ people are hitting it.), it goes mad when wiz's hit it. (he goes "mad" depending on an amount of damage done, and you'll also notice WT begins to hit alot slower after his crazy fitty things)...

But yeah wiz's can hurt WT more than warriors can, but the mistake most wiz's make is running, get the sheild up and get your pots ready :-), and a tao as always.


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bluesaber
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Posted - 01/06/2002 :  22:22:43  Show Profile  Send bluesaber an ICQ Message  Send bluesaber an instant message
eshock makes him go mad after hes turned white again or red

dont u tink we are getting off the subject

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Charger
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Posted - 01/07/2002 :  00:06:17  Show Profile
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You are not very clever Azal.

Wizards need to keep moving to kill a boss, WT, WEB, ES, the more they move the more monsters will get lured.

If they stand still and help clear smaller mobs while the warriors keep the boss busy it is better for both classes.

If a wizard takes on WT and the warriors have to clear the woomas, then by the time the wizard has killed WT the warriors would be dead because of all the woomas you lured.

And monsters attack whatever is doing the most damage, if WT was alone in the KR and there was a wizard and 2 warriors attacking it then the WT will go after the Wizard, and the WT moves fast and when it goes turbo it will over run the wizard and kill him.


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I never move when i solo WEB's...why should i ? I use m-shield twice and WEB's dead and my pets intact...go figure it out. And ive solo'ed 50+ WEBs.

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