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Tricky
Game Master


Netherlands
921 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  12:35:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok guys and gals, as most of you know there have been reports from people using a speed cheat. There is a check build in that reports any users of this cheat to a log file.

So far these names have been banned from the game and see this as an example. As you all can imagine, this is not tolerated and result is an immediate ban. It doesn't matter if your lvl 1 or lvl 35...

24-9-01:
fackjoe
13371ult
lotos
schinoble6
jennox
soultrek
jimbaz
binkzz

These people have been very lucky and their ban was only temporary. Starting the 25th all bans are permanent.

25-9-01
Dragon server
FlameBlade
PooPee
Reaperz

Phoenix server
Legion
Dominus
g9dw3adf3212

26-9-2001
Dragon Server
RaveNuZi0
awd
JohnFish

27/28-9-2001
Dragon server
Nightquest


Phoenix server
Alanon

1-10-2001
Dragon server
008ok
arknemesis
howareyou

8-10-2001
Dragon server
Gravel


14-10-2001
Dragon server
Jason1
Omikron
Funpire

15-10-2001
Dragon server
Navy12

17-10-2001
Dragon server
Epico
Osamarulez


I'll keep updating this list with every player that has been banned for using a speedcheat..

I also ask anyone to report the names of players who you feel use this cheat and I'll make sure he'll be investigated.

/Tricky


Like I said, I never repeat myself.
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Edited by - Tricky on 10/09/2001 02:29:24

SB
Junior Member


Australia
293 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  12:40:56  Show Profile  Send SB an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
rahh niceone

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Ezrolith
Junior Member


United Kingdom
272 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  12:43:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hmm

i'd be carefull you make it a good investigation... Lots of dumb people accuse anyone that runs faster than them with their 100kg of meat to be using soem form of cheat, i hope you won't be banning them...

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Tricky
Game Master


Netherlands
921 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  12:47:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

hmm

i'd be carefull you make it a good investigation... Lots of dumb people accuse anyone that runs faster than them with their 100kg of meat to be using soem form of cheat, i hope you won't be banning them...



Like I allready mentioned it is logged. There is a check build into the game that reports any use of it. Sometimes it can be regarded as a lag spike, but this can be checked in the logs..

/Tricky

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SB
Junior Member


Australia
293 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  12:49:26  Show Profile  Send SB an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
People naming others only makes it easier for them to check as tricky is saying, rather than checking everyone they can just check through "suspects" logs, makes it alot easier, it isn't a case of ban someone cause so n so said they were running 2 fast!

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toobad
Junior Member



291 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  12:55:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
at last - thank you.

Tricky - is there any chance of my guild getting the demonic bells back after she got these from us using the cheat

Toobad

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enembius
Senior Member


United Kingdom
1353 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  13:02:20  Show Profile  Visit enembius's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I name DuPont as someone I suspect of using a speed cheat.

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Tricky
Game Master


Netherlands
921 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  13:02:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

at last - thank you.

Tricky - is there any chance of my guild getting the demonic bells back after she got these from us using the cheat

Toobad



Could you be more specific about what happened and why the cheat made her "steal" the bells. As you can imagine I'm only a moderator but I _can_ try to tell them your story.

/Tricky

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Zoro
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51 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  13:06:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sum 1 said GREY uses this cheat. BAN HIS FAT ASS

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MageExcalibur
New Member


Netherlands
83 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  13:12:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am confused ?

If there is a check in the game,
why is there the need of reporting anyone ?

Can we be clear about this :

If someone uses the cheat, it will ALWAYS be noticed and action WILL be taken within one or two days.

Can you confirm this !


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Tricky
Game Master


Netherlands
921 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  13:14:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Sum 1 said GREY uses this cheat.

This is an example how it's not supposed to be.

Someone said that ..... was seen using it..

Like I said, I never repeat myself.
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SB
Junior Member


Australia
293 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  13:19:55  Show Profile  Send SB an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
I am confused ?

If there is a check in the game,
why is there the need of reporting anyone ?

Can we be clear about this :

If someone uses the cheat, it will ALWAYS be noticed and action WILL be taken within one or two days.

Can you confirm this !


Do u think they wanna search thru everyones logs for each day etc?

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Tricky
Game Master


Netherlands
921 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  13:20:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

I am confused ?

If there is a check in the game,
why is there the need of reporting anyone ?

Can we be clear about this :

If someone uses the cheat, it will ALWAYS be noticed and action WILL be taken within one or two days.

Can you confirm this !


MageExcalibur
Level 24 Thaoist


Well in my opinion 1-2 days is not fast enough. To make it easier for the developers I was asked to report the names of people who use it. They are extremly busy right now and they can't keep checking logs to pick out people who use this. As you can imagine the people who were reported probably use different programs to accomplish this. They need to be on top of every sort of cheat and it's consuming a lot of time allready.

/Tricky

Like I said, I never repeat myself.
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Lippo
Senior Member


Finland
1285 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  13:30:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

just wondering if you use speed cheat how long the GMs will ban you? 1st for a week? 2nd time for a month? 3rd time for good?

/Lippo

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Tricky
Game Master


Netherlands
921 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  14:06:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There will be a new game regulation on the homepage soon. After that the bans will be permanent. These bans will be for 1-2 weeks..

/Tricky

Like I said, I never repeat myself.
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theonetruegod
Junior Member


United Kingdom
261 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  14:09:38  Show Profile  Visit theonetruegod's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Why not use this SPEED CHEAT to get over the realy BAD LAG we have.

Its only lag thats making this game so slow to lvl. Its getting bad when wolfs can get me so close to deaths door.

So if theres a prog out there to make things faster get the programmers to use it in the game?

Peace.

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toobad
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291 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  14:12:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok tricky - lotos killed one of my wiz khaania with speed cheat. she dropped bells and sold them to azal. Khaania is a high level wizard and she got killed in like 3 seconds, about 6 lighteninga in 3 seconds. Surely now lotos has been deleted we should have out items back?

Toobad

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NeoWizard
Senior Member


United Kingdom
1150 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  14:16:34  Show Profile  Send NeoWizard an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
Tricky,

Oh Kewl, Excellent, I offen see people FLY pass me like a Guzzelle on fire, and WONDERED HOW THEY RAN SOOOOO FAST - almost double Run speed, I asked one and he said it was his ISP, BUT NOW I KNOW - CHEATERS...... From now on i will build a list of suspects from my DAILY ( 8 Hours on Mir )

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Lippo
Senior Member


Finland
1285 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  14:31:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

ok tricky - lotos killed one of my wiz khaania with speed cheat. she dropped bells and sold them to azal. Khaania is a high level wizard and she got killed in like 3 seconds, about 6 lighteninga in 3 seconds. Surely now lotos has been deleted we should have out items back?

Toobad



Nopes she's NOT deleted, she's banned for 1 or 2 weeks. I'd like to point out that Lotos DID GET that account from SOLO and it means that account should be DELETED because it is TRADED account in some way!!!
2bad I hope you get your bells back, because I know how fustrating it is to find rare things if you're not buying them. I have a nice screenshot of Lotos whispering me that she/he got that account from Solo!!! I'll send these screenshots to accounthandlers, LOLZ LOLZ, and Lotos if you read this, you now know I ment what I said when we were whispering to each other and the conversation before!!!

/Lippo

PS. Cheat in my eyesight and get banned, LOLZ LOLZ... LMAO

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MageExcalibur
New Member


Netherlands
83 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  14:33:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

quote:

I am confused ?

If there is a check in the game,
why is there the need of reporting anyone ?

Can we be clear about this :

If someone uses the cheat, it will ALWAYS be noticed and action WILL be taken within one or two days.

Can you confirm this !


MageExcalibur
Level 24 Thaoist


Well in my opinion 1-2 days is not fast enough. To make it easier for the developers I was asked to report the names of people who use it. They are extremly busy right now and they can't keep checking logs to pick out people who use this. As you can imagine the people who were reported probably use different programs to accomplish this. They need to be on top of every sort of cheat and it's consuming a lot of time allready.

/Tricky

Like I said, I never repeat myself.
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Ok i got the point.
Someone who uses the cheat, can do it as long as he is not been seen doing it.
If he's been seen than the person who saw it , needs to report him. Then the MIR people check his log and he will be banned.

If this is true, then there will be cheaters, i am sure.
Isn't there a way to automaticly check logfiles by a computer programm ?
It could report suspicious logfiles to MIR people ?


MageExcalibur
Level 24 Thaoist

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Tricky
Game Master


Netherlands
921 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  14:51:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Ok i got the point.
Someone who uses the cheat, can do it as long as he is not been seen doing it.
If he's been seen than the person who saw it , needs to report him. Then the MIR people check his log and he will be banned.

If this is true, then there will be cheaters, i am sure.
Isn't there a way to automaticly check logfiles by a computer programm ?
It could report suspicious logfiles to MIR people ?


Well like I allready said. They have to be on top of every "trainer" that uses this exploit. To be able to prevent further abuse it's best for them to know what exploits are being used. Other games have provn allready that there can be several programs who enable this cheat. Maybe there is one program out there that does something that isn't checked. The best way to prevent things like this is to try to catch it ever before it's used once. Security has to be updated all the time in order to prevent further abuse.

This is the reason I asked to report users. It could be that half of the reports are allready under investigation but you might catch that 1 guy that was about to slip through the check.

/Tricky

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Asteru
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Posted - 09/24/2001 :  14:55:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've seen Legion and FlashHAHA using it.

FlashHAHA said this after she zipped past me:

quote:
From mongchon prison to serpent valley in under a minute muahahaha

She "shouted" it
When i tried to take a screenshot with printscreen it messed up and the shout was completely black :(

Legion was running circles around me atleast 3 times normal walking speed he attacked me and several other people.

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Tricky
Game Master


Netherlands
921 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  14:59:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

I've seen Legion and FlashHAHA using it.


Thanks, they've been reported before but I forgot about em..

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-=MightyMike=-
Starting Member


Netherlands
29 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  15:13:29  Show Profile  Send -=MightyMike=- an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
Cheaters should be banned permanently !! No warning...delete their account immediatly please !
Bah..why are there always people that want to mess up a game for other players

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IMPOSTER
Starting Member


United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/24/2001 :  15:16:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok i have not been reported but this is my problem i have a v.powerfull pc with ISDN and i play useing taoist lvl 22 who runs at lvl 18 just now. I can out run anyone that i team with or run around the mines with. Now what is to stop them from reporting me for cheat.Well nothing and this is my piont just make sure u know what ur diong or u could piss of a lot of ligitimate player like me and u wast lom staff time having to look for the player and the cheat.
and i look forward to out running all ur asses in the near future

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toobad
Junior Member



291 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  15:23:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tricky, if you are in contact with a GM. Please ask them to replace the items khaania lost. AZAL from HoG as also said he will give back the bells is a GM messages him. AZAL didn't know until after the trade of the bells didnt knwo the story until after he traded them.

Many people have been saying about this cheat for the past 2 weeks and only now they are being stopped for 2 weeks. GM's said it was us with LAG?......

I will look forward to hearing form a GM about this. Please do not get me wrong, if Khaania was pk'ed by a non-cheater, I would not be bothered. But 6 thunderbolts in 3 secs is silly. I also heard she killed WT in 13secs??

Thx for ur support Lippo.

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enembius
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/24/2001 :  15:27:07  Show Profile  Visit enembius's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:

I've seen Legion and FlashHAHA using it.

FlashHAHA said this after she zipped past me:

quote:
From mongchon prison to serpent valley in under a minute muahahaha

She "shouted" it
When i tried to take a screenshot with printscreen it messed up and the shout was completely black :(

Legion was running circles around me atleast 3 times normal walking speed he attacked me and several other people.



I heard/read that shout too. I was in Serpent Valley Town at the time and it didn't click what she meant but now you've pointed it out I see what you mean...

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Tricky
Game Master


Netherlands
921 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  15:28:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Tricky, if you are in contact with a GM. Please ask them to replace the items khaania lost. AZAL from HoG as also said he will give back the bells is a GM messages him. AZAL didn't know until after the trade of the bells didnt knwo the story until after he traded them.

Many people have been saying about this cheat for the past 2 weeks and only now they are being stopped for 2 weeks. GM's said it was us with LAG?......

I will look forward to hearing form a GM about this. Please do not get me wrong, if Khaania was pk'ed by a non-cheater, I would not be bothered. But 6 thunderbolts in 3 secs is silly. I also heard she killed WT in 13secs??

Thx for ur support Lippo.

Toobad HeavensGuardians Guild Leader



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Tricky
Game Master


Netherlands
921 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  15:29:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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ok i have not been reported but this is my problem i have a v.powerfull pc with ISDN and i play useing taoist lvl 22 who runs at lvl 18 just now. I can out run anyone that i team with or run around the mines with. Now what is to stop them from reporting me for cheat.Well nothing and this is my piont just make sure u know what ur diong or u could piss of a lot of ligitimate player like me and u wast lom staff time having to look for the player and the cheat.
and i look forward to out running all ur asses in the near future



Plz go read the whole thread again.. If you didn't cheat there's nothing to be afraid of... I'm on a 1.5 mbits internet connection myself and got a powerfull pc too, never heard that makes you run fast?

Like I said, I never repeat myself.
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Tricky
Game Master


Netherlands
921 Posts
Posted - 09/24/2001 :  15:37:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:


Many people have been saying about this cheat for the past 2 weeks and only now they are being stopped for 2 weeks. GM's said it was us with LAG?......



My opinion about this is, what else do you expect? Do want them to post on the mainpage that there is a speedcheat that works out there and everybody should try it. In order to prevent things like this escalating is to keep quiet untill you solve it.

There is something done about it right now, that's the only thing that matters.

/Tricky

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toobad
Junior Member



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Posted - 09/24/2001 :  16:20:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tricky - i have checked my email and there is nothing there. Just confirming email address.

Toobad

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