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Attivar
New Member
United Kingdom
52 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2001 : 13:24:43
Here we go again, people queing for over 18+ hours for a go at Zumataurus, just to have the hunt fked up when a larger guild decides that the next guild or group can go fk themselves and theres no such thing as a que. Yeah I'm Talking about Nomad and his pile of s.hit guild. The que was as follows > TS (in)> MC > Warlords> DG > Axiom> WO > HOK > Mafia > Drac> so on and so forth. Some of these groups and guilds had beeen queing since the night before, some as long as 18 hours. Along come Nomads people, and say "FK waiting in a que ZT is anyones then proceed to screw up the group that was ins turn, making it a 3 times longer wait because the next group has to clean up the mess when the group fails because ZT was woken up early before the group had set up. FFS how many people does it take to kill the dam thing, 2 wizz, 2 Taos, 7 warriors.. piss easy Not a friggin army like Nomads people brought, KR waiting reception was so full you couldnt move. Whats wrong with em scared they will fail with 10 people and left looking like the pussies they are. Its about time that the GMs steped in and stopped this or put another 3 ZT alter rooms in Zuma to take the pressure off the waiting time. I'm not going to name people that were doing this suffice to say it was Nomads guild, (althogh Nomad wasnt there) they know who they were, but screenshots were taken and if a GM would like to contact me they can see for themselves what a nightmare this is. So come on GMs get your fingers out and sort this bollocks out we've p2p this game and are not being allowed to because of a few selfish people not applying themselves to unwritten rules, or have the common decency to put a member in line to wait like everyone else. People found doing this are no better than speed cheats and should have their accounts deleted. Its the only way to get a reasonable balance in game that all strive for to get the rare item drops. Copy sent to GMs & MIR internal staff etc. A reputation once broken may possibly be repaired, but the world will always keep their eyes on the spot where the crack was. It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. |
clx
Junior Member

172 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2001 : 16:28:30
i know what you mean, when DD was big (before they split) i was w8ing for my turn in ZT with some ppl, we wre next in and the guild who was in was killing ZT as some DD members turned up, then suddenly loads of DD members started turning up, we explaned that we were next and they would have to w8, then more and more DD turned up and it looked like they were w8ing there turn... but they were just getting into position, they then attacked all the ppl in the KR lobby.  i know it is anoying w8ing, but if they make more alter rooms that means more ZT's, that means more rare item drops(this makes rare items less rare) or if you share the drop out between the rooms then alot of ppl will start getting anoyed @ the drop rate clx ,/ * _,'/_ | `(")' ,'/ _ _,-H-./ / \_\_\. / )" | ( __/ A \__ \ /|\ / `--'|||`--' ==^==
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Attivar
New Member
United Kingdom
52 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2001 : 16:56:11
Ok so you think that people were not annoyed that they jumped any que. Threatening players, making @ssholes of themselves to what end? What about all the groups or guilds that had waited, Just because the membership is big they think they own MIR.... Screw the drop rate, at least it makes it more fair than having to wait all that time and come away with sod all because they fked up the hunt. I said in the original post and I say it again DELETE THE BSTDS ACCOUNTS, then the rest of us can get on playing for what we paid for. A reputation once broken may possibly be repaired, but the world will always keep their eyes on the spot where the crack was. It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. |
Benin
Junior Member

United Kingdom
459 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2001 : 17:06:02
I think an auto que system would be suitable, where only the guild that has booked the raid can acctually enter the room.You would only be able to book 12 hours in advance or whatever. I can see bugs in this idea, but i think it would work with some tweaking. Benin - Level 24 Warrior - HeavensGuardians "Peritissimos semper praevidere possumus, rudi autem periculosi sunt." MIR Tavern |
Walker
Junior Member

United Kingdom
376 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2001 : 17:17:00
I think you are missing the point - GM`s want guilds to fight over ZT, and want more Guild Wars and Sabuk Conquests - They even said in the Game Network Show, that wars and conquests are one of the things they push, why que for ZT when you can kill everyone there and then kill ZT.If your guild is strong enough to take ZT, you should be strong enough to defend your right to attack it. Diplomacy is a tool of the weak. I got something to say, its better to burn out than to fade away. |
Attivar
New Member
United Kingdom
52 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2001 : 21:32:40
quote:
I think you are missing the point - GM`s want guilds to fight over ZT, and want more Guild Wars and Sabuk Conquests - They even said in the Game Network Show, that wars and conquests are one of the things they push, why que for ZT when you can kill everyone there and then kill ZT.If your guild is strong enough to take ZT, you should be strong enough to defend your right to attack it. Diplomacy is a tool of the weak. I got something to say, its better to burn out than to fade away.
Erm Walker, I think you missed the point, why does it take an entire guild to take down ZT, when it can be done with as little as 11 people. Some of us prefer to remain in small groups. Theres no need for huge mobs of groups or guilds.Also having being a member of the biggest and first guild in game I know what the downside of massive membership is. Keep the group or guild small and everyone gets good items and their leaders & members are better thought of. Imagine being in TD & you do a ZT hunt a rare items drops do you get it? No fkin way, Guild Chiefs & Leaders get the cream, the rest of the s.hite goes to anyone who wants it & you and other people have done the horse work, call that democracy no way mate your being used to further the leaders. And FYI no I'm not a low lever char I'm lvl 31 so yeah I need better items and by being in a small group or guild I can get the stuff I need without having to ask, so this way every participant is happy. BTW great POST "Little Dick, Big Dick" ROFLMFAO A reputation once broken may possibly be repaired, but the world will always keep their eyes on the spot where the crack was. It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. |
Gelentium
Average Member
 
694 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2001 : 21:48:28
these are unwritten rules, they dont have to be obeyed, if i complained everytime someone did something i didnt like, then i would never stop complaining.If someone has done something to you in the game that has upset you, then do something about it ingame, not try to change the game rules. You higher levels make me piss, you PK just about any under lvl22 player that goes to the KR, you dress in newb clothes just to lure some idiot into attacking you, you make unwritten rules in the game and expect everyone to adhere to them. Well it dont work like that mate, this is a freeform game, thats the way it should be. If the gild in question are really piss poor enough to need to send that many players into KR then you should have no trouble making them stay inline next time. When i get to level 30 i sure as hell wont be spending 18 hours waiting to get into a certain room, is that what playings about for you? I wouldnt wait, allthough i wouldnt have jumped the queue, i just wouldnt have gone there, cant be arsed with waiting 18 mins for anything never mind 18 hours. I say it again, if one guild has broken rules written by the other guilds/players, then why dont you do something about it, like crush them....or you could just whine about it....i know what i would rather do. Toast: Level 3 (12%)

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AZN
Average Member
 
USA
762 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2001 : 21:52:36
naw u got it all wrong.. increasing the number of ZT isn't goin to helpReduce it will help make ZT spawn once every 24 hour. NO MORE WAITING.. unless u want to wait 24 hour ------- RASTILIN ------- -=TheOutlaw=- ============================== GODSLAYER ============================== |
Squalion
Senior Member
  
United Kingdom
1253 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2001 : 22:15:19
Er...AZN...then every 24 hr either TD, THO/HoG or TIC will be there and push their way in...they need A BOOKING SYSTEM!!U GM'S DONT PLAY!!! U DONT KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE!!! ------- The 11th Satanic Statement: When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
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yamitus
Junior Member

United Kingdom
211 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2001 : 22:19:07
3 rooms would help a lot, our guild suffers w8ing problems anwell, we usually end up getting in there at the early hours of the morning, which i can't be arsed withYamitus New Dawn -Member- |
Yodels3
Junior Member

126 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2001 : 22:23:45
screw the alter room i think it zt should roam the 4rth floor first guild to kill it gets it, anyone who steals gets a guild after them. sounds like fun to me. and also ucan kill zt with 2 warriors 1 tao and 1 or 2 wizzes (Depending on what level the wiz is)
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CerebralEradicator
Junior Member

254 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2001 : 22:40:17
No we need anarchy!! 7 ZT!! Every man 4 himself!!!
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Insurrex
Starting Member
United Kingdom
35 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2001 : 00:43:58
quote:
screw the alter room i think it zt should roam the 4rth floor first guild to kill it gets it, anyone who steals gets a guild after them. sounds like fun to me. and also ucan kill zt with 2 warriors 1 tao and 1 or 2 wizzes (Depending on what level the wiz is)
Well to me i totally agree with Attivar GM's should add couple more ZT king's rooms on to stop all this witing. With all the waiting ppl are missing out on leveling and such. But to have the ZT walk round the corridors of the floor 4 in Zuma is just plain stupid what kind of formation u going to have or what if some walks into it on there own,then what solo it yeah right with the amount of stuff it spwans im supprised that u ould DE out of there and what bout the drops aswell ppl cum down the corridor and loot then DE yeah then u will be complaining that u did'nt want ZT in the corridor. so yeah Attavar i with u m8 add some more ZT kings room on to stop all the waiting and confusion.[font=Times New Roman][/font=Times New RomanD]    |
jamesscott
Junior Member

United Kingdom
278 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2001 : 01:22:41
The thing that gets me is as a Wizzars later I will want a mage staff. The only plase I know of to get one is the ZT, I am noob so if you can get it anywhere else can you tell me please. I am not in a guild and dont see why I shoud have to join a guild just to get one item that I want. Yes the game is ment to encourage team play but they should not make it impossible to do it on your own. I normally go around with one mate this halft the mp I need without damaging the exp i get too much and it works out well. We are not concidreing joining a guild at the moment so if you have to queue to kill the ZT we would be completly buggered as we both work in the same place and we wold never get a chance to wait for 18 hours. I can only hope the quests will sole some of the problems for us low numbers/solo players.**I havn't go a hope in Hell** Occupation:Warrior LVL20 Name:JamesAeon *Retired* Occupation:Wizzard LVL19 Name:JamesEon |
Caerdydd
Starting Member
United Kingdom
37 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2001 : 01:52:26
You shouldnt have to queue at all. Everyone in the game deserves as equal chance as everyone else. The only way to do that is a booking system.I wouldnt want to share drops with other guilds any more than they would with me regardless of how strong/powerful/stupid they are. If you go to WT or ZT its usually to get the rare drops. If its a free for all that means you either dont get anything, or the item has to be sold and the money shared out with 40 odd people. Thats no good if you want to keep the item. I just -hope- that the game programmers will sort this out in the near future, because right now the big guilds are getting richer, and the small guilds are getting fook all. ------------ I tried to change the world... ...but god wouldnt give me the source code. |
Hexen
Junior Member

USA
360 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2001 : 07:50:10
im not going near any of those two till im lvl 23+The only man to own a candle with +3 curse... |
Attivar
New Member
United Kingdom
52 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2001 : 07:51:05
quote:
screw the alter room i think it zt should roam the 4rth floor first guild to kill it gets it, anyone who steals gets a guild after them. sounds like fun to me. and also ucan kill zt with 2 warriors 1 tao and 1 or 2 wizzes (Depending on what level the wiz is)
Of course it sounds like fun to you....I've know n you since you were a noob and all you ever do is drop steal you fkin parasite......I remember the day you stole the WT horn after we had killed it, 5 people saw you pick it up, and you lied thro your teeth. Then low & behold you're shouting horn for sale in Bichon, thats before the shops were buying them. Yet again another bright idea from a the drop stealer of all drop stealers. You probably stole the money from your blind deaf dumb granny to p2p this game. A reputation once broken may possibly be repaired, but the world will always keep their eyes on the spot where the crack was. It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. |
Hexen
Junior Member

USA
360 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2001 : 07:52:45
cant we all get along?The only man to own a candle with +3 curse... |
Attivar
New Member
United Kingdom
52 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2001 : 08:13:59
quote:
these are unwritten rules, they dont have to be obeyed, if i complained everytime someone did something i didnt like, then i would never stop complaining.If someone has done something to you in the game that has upset you, then do something about it ingame, not try to change the game rules. You higher levels make me piss, you PK just about any under lvl22 player that goes to the KR, you dress in newb clothes just to lure some idiot into attacking you, you make unwritten rules in the game and expect everyone to adhere to them. Well it dont work like that mate, this is a freeform game, thats the way it should be. If the gild in question are really piss poor enough to need to send that many players into KR then you should have no trouble making them stay inline next time. When i get to level 30 i sure as hell wont be spending 18 hours waiting to get into a certain room, is that what playings about for you? I wouldnt wait, allthough i wouldnt have jumped the queue, i just wouldnt have gone there, cant be arsed with waiting 18 mins for anything never mind 18 hours. I say it again, if one guild has broken rules written by the other guilds/players, then why dont you do something about it, like crush them....or you could just whine about it....i know what i would rather do. Toast: Level 3 (12%)
I aint complaining about it bud I'm stating the facts, and at lvl 30 if its still the same system you like eveyone else will que, because if you dont you aint ever going to get the items you need. I didnt make the rule to que, but I accept them like most of the guilds that que do, and most other guilds/groups do also. As for your comment about dressing in noob clothes just to pk, you fk up your own arguement in your last sentence, "Quote" then why dont you do something about it, like crush them....or you could just whine about it....i know what i would rather do. Makes you no better than them.
FYI I have never PKed anyone in game, I dont agree with it, its the lowest form of gameplay, if pple wanna kill pple then join the fkin army, i aint got the time for it. And your comment about making them stay inline if you read the post right you would see we dont take more than 12 people into KR, so try and stop 20+ members from getting in there. But what the hell I'm replying to a guy who hasnt a clue what its like to even see Zuma let alone the KR. You probably havent got out of Bichon yet. A reputation once broken may possibly be repaired, but the world will always keep their eyes on the spot where the crack was. It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.
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TheInquisitor
Junior Member

Pakistan
101 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2001 : 08:20:43
quote:
I think an auto que system would be suitable, where only the guild that has booked the raid can acctually enter the room.
it would work but what about non-guild member who wanna go in and ppl in guild who arnt hunting with there guild? Mgs2001 Guild Master of Scared Angels(not yet offical) http://www.avidgamers.com/ScaredAngels
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Hexen
Junior Member

USA
360 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2001 : 08:23:42
just share the loot you damn cry babiesThe only man to own a candle with +3 curse... |
GandalfUK
Junior Member

United Kingdom
308 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2001 : 10:07:12
ahhheemmmGuild this Guild that...!! Ok I'm in two guild's one on each server. I wouldn't mind having a go at ZT with some mates on our own hunt (not a guild Hunt, but for ourseleves). This is impossible as the Guilds have wrapped up ZT and the booking so tight. I go on ZT hunts with the guild but end up with nothing as the Guild is so big and the amount of drops are so small. I went on five ZT trip, got nothing, stopped going..... So Guilds before you start bitching about the waiting times etc... have a thought about those ppl who are paying as much as you, but not in a guild, who have no chance of booking a slot to face the mighty ZT........ GandalfUK FireSlayer lvl 25 TheInnerCircle (~Dragon~)
HitMAN MasterWarlord lvl 22 Æthernals (~Phoenix~) |
Attivar
New Member
United Kingdom
52 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2001 : 19:05:58
Jesus you cant want us to believe your serious about TIC being a guild, TIC is the laughing stock of MIR along with Dominion being the biggest @ssholes with the biggest mouths.Hee Hee I'm of to play (DAOC)Dark Age Of Camelot. I aint paying for this s.hite any longer A reputation once broken may possibly be repaired, but the world will always keep their eyes on the spot where the crack was. It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. |
Maxctran
Average Member
 
United Kingdom
549 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2001 : 19:43:21
i think the new continent will sort out the problem with more places to go, not to mention the new bosses which are plaaned for this update.Maxctran Hybrid Hands of God |
gangrel
Starting Member
United Kingdom
22 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2001 : 07:11:18
Attivar I agree with u m8 things have gotto change people like Nomad and his bullyboys should be stoped,hopfully with their accounts deleted . Nomad must have been bullied alot when younger or why else should a charictor of his level resort 2 pking he should set an example for others not make a complete @sshole of himself.As for the rest of Dominion some are nice people some are wannabe's the good ones I think are misslead bigger is not always best.On the subject of NOMAD can someone answer me a question how can 1 player end up with most of the rarest items on the game that noone knows where the hell they come from , FFS how many judgment maces in the game not many but our friend NOMAD has had his hands on all of them he seams to have a lot of luck (OR) friends in high (LOW)places. Like a friendly GM.I have not seen dragon rings,iron helm,and knight bracers on anyone else in the game iI am lvl 30 warrior and i play fare all the way but it seems that if you play fare you get shafted. But that the way I was brought up Iwas not dragged up so I do no right from wrong. Not like some so called (PLAYERS). Most people dont like to lose but live with it, others on the other hand will do anything to win including cheat, bully, steal. They my friends are the lowest form of life. I for one will not lower myself to their level.THAT IS CALLED PRIDE AND I AM PROUD OF MYSELF AND THE REST OF THE PEOPLE THAT PLAY THIS GAME IN FARENESS,AND BELIEVE ME MOST PEOPLE ARE . IT IS THE FEW THAT SPOIL IT FORE THE REST. "BE TRUE UNTO OTHERS THEN OTHER'S WILL BE TRUE UNTO YOU" "BE FARE UNTO OTHER THEN OTHER WILL BE FARE UNTO YOU" To all my friends online plat well and enjoy.

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Attivar
New Member
United Kingdom
52 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2001 : 16:07:22
Errrm Good question Gangrell .....Where/who/why gave Nomad all those rare items.....HMmmmmm Makes one think bet you a GM could answer that.....but the grean bead he wears was traded by Tselacus for a JMace @ the expense of HOG members....That m8 is a fact I was there and Tsel got a fkin from Bug becuse he thought the trade was s,hite.A reputation once broken may possibly be repaired, but the world will always keep their eyes on the spot where the crack was. It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. |
thorinoak
New Member
Canada
55 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2001 : 16:32:24
quote: Yeah I'm Talking about Nomad and his pile of s.hit guild. The que was as follows > TS (in)> MC > Warlords> DG > Axiom> WO > HOK > Mafia > Drac> so on and so forth. Some of these groups and guilds had beeen queing since the night before, some as long as 18 hours.
Personaly i had been there waiting for 12 hours ( for MC) and although i wouldent have liked it at all if a bigger guild came in an took my spot forcing me to wait another 3 ohurs i wouldent have complained. It's part of the game.. theres some advantages to being in a big guild and having the right away because u can kill any1 that won't give it to you. But going in Zt with large numbers is a disadvantage too because you dont get the items. So either you wait and benefit with items, or u take a spot in the line and get nothing. Well waiting MC and Warlords got into an argument about who was next, and it was properly resolved by the warlords leader (thanks). Waiting sux paying to sit in a small room (alter) making small talk sucks. But the 50 minutes fighting Zumataurus + the potential items is well worth the wait. =-=-=-=-==-=-Thorin-=-=-=--=-=-= -=-=-=-==-LvL. 26: Tao-=-=-=-=-= -=-=Mercinaries Guildmember-=-= |
chunder
Junior Member

United Kingdom
224 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2001 : 16:45:21
I agree 100% There should be a queing system, but more rooms are needed. As for pushing in and going for a free for all...The bigger guilds are the first to complain when someone from one of the weaker, smaller guilds they push in front of steals the drop from a WT "they killed" There is no difference what so ever. You cant have it both ways. Thanks Chunder House of Keylah ICQ 97024668 "jesus of the jedireligion" www.jedireligion.com |
Walrus
New Member
73 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2001 : 16:49:34
quote:
But the 50 minutes fighting Zumataurus + the potential items is well worth the wait.
OMG! U using a cursed wooden sword to kill it or summat  Dragon - Tusky (Mage Lvl 24) Axiom Phoenix - Walrus (Warrior Lvl 19) |
Golgotha
Starting Member
7 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2001 : 17:11:23
Like i said before ,we need more Kr's .. and it wouldn't need to affect the rarity of certain high lvl items i.e If there were 3 Kr's just tone down the amount of rare items droped to 1/3. To be honest the last 3-4 times I have been in to kill ZT he hasn't dropped anything rare anyway ,bene oil and zuma relics, but thats it! Now if I was only waiting for say 2 hours a pop I wouldn't mind but the least was about 6 hours the most about 12 hours .That just isn't funny......In fact its frustrating as hell.=[Golgotha The Sheep Slayer]=
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iNgUmA
Junior Member

Spain
103 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2001 : 17:58:44
Ehmmm... we don't need more KRs. We need a random spawning ZT, as the WG, the SZG, the E-Tong... We need to be fighting a couple of ZGs, and then see the forthcoming storm in form of the ZT and all his cohort wasting every1 as they pass by... no more w8ing in the top of the stairs, no more arguing, no more complaining, just people fighting for their lives and falling under the ZGs maces or the ZTs magic... and the ZT breaking out to surface over the corpses and spreading death and suffering everywhere... his evil forces taking down SWs door and burning the whole city while we keep saying *oh unfair people who don't let us into the KR*..."Get away from me! Take heed to thyself and see my face no more! for in the day Thou see my face Thou shalt die!" Join my soul, The Hunter in the sky... |