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RedMoonXO
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Canada
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Posted - 10/09/2001 :  22:21:55  Show Profile  Visit RedMoonXO's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Spell Name: Slash Wave

Class: Warrior

Spell Power (for example, your DC is going to be 2-20 for these spells):

Level 0: 1/4 of DC x 2 (SP:10)
Level 1: 1/2 of DC x 2 (SP:18)
Level 2: 3/4 of DC x 2 (SP:30)
Level 3: DC x 2 (SP:45)

Level requirement:

Level 0-1: 16
Level 2: 23
Level 3: 27

Spell Description:

The warrior makes an overhead swing of his sword and a powerful rush of energy travels toward it's target, hitting anything in it's path. How much things it hits depends on spell level. It's as follows:
Level 0: Stops at the first thing it hits
Level 1: Goes through the first thing it hits and stops at the second thing it hits (if there is any)
Level 2: Goes through the first and second thing it hits and stops at the third thing it hits (if there is any)
Level 3: Goes right through everything until it hits the target

Image:

Level 0: A gush of wind from sword
Level 1: A blueish wind from sword
Level 2: Electric energy from sword
Level 3: Powerful flame from sword

Required HP/MP:

Since warriors don't have any MP, the spell draws it's energy from the soul of the warrior, lowering the HP of the warrior just slightly.

Overall description:

A long range spell for the warriors that takes up HP instead of MP. It can go through some things that it hits after it levels up a bit.

Whatever MIR is, it has sucked me in. I am totally committed to it. I breathe it. I talk it. Everything I do springs from some need of MIR. Sometimes I wonder what would happen to me if MIR went down. If somehow, without knowing it, I had failed a test...

Edited by - RedMoonXO on 10/10/2001 22:29:12

Edited by - RedMoonXO on 10/13/2001 02:12:26

RedMoonXO
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Canada
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Posted - 10/09/2001 :  22:26:42  Show Profile  Visit RedMoonXO's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I know it's long, but just read it. Post any suggestions or notes to add to this.

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Aydon
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/09/2001 :  23:02:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The only thing I would say about this is that Warriors are not Mages or Taos. Their strength is exactly that - their strength. We are merely grunts who should be in the forward line with Taos healing us from the back and Mages sat on the fringes Fireballing, lightening, whatever the newest Mage spell is ;)

I do not have a problem with that view. I love to be in the front line soaking up the punishment knowing that the team will be successful because of it.

So nice idea but I do not think it fits in with the idea of an RPG that you have classes that are different and whose strengths are different too.

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FrOzEnFiReZ
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Posted - 10/09/2001 :  23:17:57  Show Profile  Visit FrOzEnFiReZ's Homepage  Send FrOzEnFiReZ an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
yeah, i much rather be on the front line, as the brave soldier, than one of the back men. all are important, but i like being involved at the front more!


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kruger
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Posted - 10/09/2001 :  23:31:46  Show Profile  Send kruger an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
just for the info...at lvl 28 warriors DO get MP

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Saber
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/09/2001 :  23:40:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Whats up with this why do you sterotype us as all whining snivling low lvl noobs? most warriors know they don't have and don't need a long range attack its only the people that feel ripped of that they can't solo ZumaT at lvl 2 that whine about long range attacks sure somthing is needed to fill the gap between lvl's 7 and 19 but thats all i ask for and even that doesn't matter for me anymore

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Lippo
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Finland
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Posted - 10/09/2001 :  23:48:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Required HP/MP:

Since warriors don't have any MP, the spell draws it's energy from the soul of the warrior, lowering the HP of the warrior just slightly.


Err, warriors have MPs, only we don't have indicator for it at least before level 28, (I'm 27 so I don't know and never asked any higher warrior). At level 27 I have HUGE amount of 65 mps...

/Lippo

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Styn
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Canada
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Posted - 10/10/2001 :  00:25:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That spell is actually kinda good, with a few tweaks tho. I think that it is quite powerful and so should be around lv 37-40 and also that the warrior would target a mob beside him but damage travels through to the mob behind it at say 3/4 dc rating and continues to a third at 1/2. It sounds alot like a linear halfmoon and that is why I would have the begining lvl at around 37. As for a skill between 7-19 you have to think alot smaller than that. perhaps something that gives a small ac boost since at the lower lvls (please don't quote me on this) I think that the ac rating of the 3 classes are quite similar to each other and so the warrior really doesn't have anything to "define" the class. Till lvl 22 really, (except the period between 15-20 when the warrior can use medium armor and the tao can't) they are quite similar.

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RedMoonXO
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Canada
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Posted - 10/10/2001 :  14:22:41  Show Profile  Visit RedMoonXO's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well you won't really get MP till 28, and you really have low MP, so the spell should draw your HP, but very little of it.

At level 16, the spell will be weak, but it's still long range. Once it gets to level 3, it will do your full DC, meaning its probably going to be powerful.

Who said anything about warriors giving up being the front of defense? If you want to fight first, go ahead. Plus, if you're at the back, the Slash Wave will hit the guys in front of you .

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Lippo
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Finland
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Posted - 10/10/2001 :  14:25:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Well you won't really get MP till 28, and you really have low MP, so the spell should draw your HP, but very little of it.

At level 16, the spell will be weak, but it's still long range. Once it gets to level 3, it will do your full DC, meaning its probably going to be powerful.

Who said anything about warriors giving up being the front of defense? If you want to fight first, go ahead. Plus, if you're at the back, the Slash Wave will hit the guys in front of you .

Whatever MIR is, it has sucked me in. I am totally committed to it. I breathe it. I talk it. Everything I do springs from some need of MIR. Sometimes I wonder what would happen to me if MIR went down. If somehow, without knowing it, I had failed a test...


DAMMIT warriors have MPs from level 1, BUT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO USE THEM.

/Lippo

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atari
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/10/2001 :  14:26:48  Show Profile  Visit atari's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hiyas

Yep at level 28 you do get a mp idicator the same as the other cl***es

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RedMoonXO
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Canada
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Posted - 10/10/2001 :  18:13:42  Show Profile  Visit RedMoonXO's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well the spell draws energy from your HP, since it's going to be hard to see your MP. I'm not saying warriors don't have MP though.

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Kenazi
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/10/2001 :  22:00:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice idea u have there m8, but i don't think lv 16 is that good for the skill since thrusting is for lv 25. i would say it should go more like this to learn it u need lv 29, for 1-2lv of skill u need lv 33 and for lv 3 lv 37, that's more like it, cuz if u think about it it's a good idea for a spell and all, but for such a low level and lv 3 right b4 halfmoon and being better than it, it kinda sucz. so think about it with my requirements and tell me what u think.
i know i don't post that often but i do have sence in what i say.

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RedMoonXO
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Canada
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Posted - 10/10/2001 :  22:24:59  Show Profile  Visit RedMoonXO's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well your level req are good, but warriors want a spell in between 7 and 19. Oh well, time to think up another for that spell. Well then your level req will be the official one from now one .

Whatever MIR is, it has sucked me in. I am totally committed to it. I breathe it. I talk it. Everything I do springs from some need of MIR. Sometimes I wonder what would happen to me if MIR went down. If somehow, without knowing it, I had failed a test...Go to Top of Page

Kenazi
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/10/2001 :  22:38:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
how about a skill that gives AC? it's gonna be very usefull for a warr. or something that gives MAC. think amongst those lines and see if u can come up woth 1 for them. i have 1 but let's see how well u do. Don't try think of a name already used or something like being able 2 wear shield, just keep it plain and simple. is that a nice starter m8?

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RedMoonXO
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Canada
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Posted - 10/10/2001 :  22:49:54  Show Profile  Visit RedMoonXO's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Spell Name: Shield (Try and come up of a better one lol)

Class: Warrior

Defense Power: (Example for this would be that your AC is 5-11 and AMC is 6-16

Level 0: AC + 25% (Example 25% of 11 is 3, so your AC increases by 3)
Level 1: AC + 30% (Same as above but 30%)
Level 2: AC + 50% AMC + 25% (50% of 11 is 8 so AMC + 6)
Level 3: AC + 60% AMC + 50% (AC+7 and AMC+ 8)

Level requirement:

Level 0-1: 15
Level 2: 20
Level 3: 24

Spell Description:

The warrior automatically gains AC and AMC from what he already had before the spell takes effect. The warrior has the option of seeing his AC and AMC without the spell's effect by pressing the button corresponding to the spell.
Level 0: Increase of AC
Level 1: Increase of AC and AMC
Level 2: Even more increased AC and a bit more AMC increase
Level 3: More AC and AMC increase

Image:

Level 0: None
Level 1: None
Level 2: None
Level 3: None

Required HP/MP:

This spell is like Fencing, so it does not take up any HP or MP.

Overall description:

An increase for the warriors defence.

Whatever MIR is, it has sucked me in. I am totally committed to it. I breathe it. I talk it. Everything I do springs from some need of MIR. Sometimes I wonder what would happen to me if MIR went down. If somehow, without knowing it, I had failed a test...

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Kenazi
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/10/2001 :  23:30:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
not bad, not bad.
A better name rather than shield is Evasionor
Outer Strength
there are better names out there and at the moment i can't think of any other, give me a day or 2 and u'll see the names i come up with!
or u could simply sugget u'r own.
there's 1 problem i forgot 2 add 2 this, how do u level it, i won't like just standing there and let myself being hit by mobs at such a low level, but there might be a way. another thing which i can't think of at the moment.
1 more skill, maybe a better idea Spiked Skin

same as the Shield skill but only the damage is returned
level 0 skill (level 16): 5% of damage given is being returned, if AC of mob is less than damage given back
level 1 skill (level 16): 15% of damage given is being returned, if AC of mob is less than damage given back
level 2 skill (level 23): 30% of damage given is being returned, if AC of mob is less than damage given back
level 3 skill (level 28): 60% of damage given is being returned, if AC of mob is less than damage given back

there's a new thinker for u ppl!!!


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RedMoonXO
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Canada
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Posted - 10/10/2001 :  23:42:50  Show Profile  Visit RedMoonXO's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hmm you're right. For the shield thing, I guess you have to get hit lol. But the good thing is that you need very little exp to level it up. For example, 100 or 200 at level 0-1.

Too tired to write up a summary for the spike skin. It's a good idea, but way too powerful for a level 16. Has to be for 30+. Maybe I'll do it later, I don't know. Maybe even tomorrow.

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Nardae
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Estonia
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Posted - 10/10/2001 :  23:47:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lmao....soul shield and blessed armor in one....and for a warrior at lv 15...

as tao is a sidekick (heals and stuff) so warrior is there to take in the hits...

warrior doesnt need some fancy asS long range mass-kill skill (Slash Wave)....and sure as hell he doesnt need that shield spell...

maybe dodging or something for warrior...

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RedMoonXO
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Canada
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Posted - 10/11/2001 :  02:43:40  Show Profile  Visit RedMoonXO's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well it won't be so powerful when you first get it

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Asmodean
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Finland
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Posted - 10/11/2001 :  08:29:48  Show Profile  Visit Asmodean's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Those would totally unbalance the game. AMC bonus for warriors? Not a chance, high AMC is Tao property. Slash wave must drop the dura of the weapon in use to half, otherwise it's WAY too powerful, not to mention unfair.

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scytale
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Germany
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Posted - 10/11/2001 :  09:03:10  Show Profile  Send scytale an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
These seem to be both so much along the same sort of lines. What can I do to boost a warriors DC and AC? With the game balance as it is you are already at the top of the DC/AC tree.

What would be nice is to turn some of the mid/high level warriors into real fighting generals ie give them some group spells. Say some battle orders:
Defensive formation - group receives better Agil
Offensive formation - group receives better DC

This doesnt steps into the realms of other characters: healing, armour, long range spells. It retains the warriors attributes and gives them good reason to group up.

scytale.

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spikesdungeon
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Posted - 10/11/2001 :  10:58:33  Show Profile  Visit spikesdungeon's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well guys i got one thing to say.....fantasy.

In how many Fantasy books, video's and games have the warrior been the strongest class???? very very few if any at all.

Wiz's have always been the strongest, not defensively but magically they blow away any attcks by warriors and taoists.

So get over it. I have a high lvl warrior and yes, i would love some more skills, which in no doubt we will see in the near future. and as for long range weapons, give me a rock and sling or a crossbow and i would be happy with that.

So guys stop complaining and lets just play the game....thats if we can get past the lag??????

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RedMoonXO
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Canada
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Posted - 10/11/2001 :  14:07:33  Show Profile  Visit RedMoonXO's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Lol. THAT again. Well I've conquered lag already. Why don't you guys think up of some spells or weapons then? If you all think it's unfair.

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LoOnBoY
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Posted - 10/11/2001 :  21:14:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I must admit, up until level 22 i was a bit disolutioned with the warrior class, but once past that level i feel the warrior comes into his own, and i too enjoy being right in the frontline hacking the adversary to pieces , then getting the first plunge at the drops =0)

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RedMoonXO
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Canada
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Posted - 10/11/2001 :  21:22:19  Show Profile  Visit RedMoonXO's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oh ya, that's another thing bugging me. If warriors are always hacking away at mobs while wiz tbolts em, wiz uses mp while warrior uses NOTHING. Usually the warrior doesn't get hit because his attacks and the wiz's spells keep the mob from attacking, so the warrior has a huge advantage of groups. Warriors don't even need anything to attack.

And another thing you mentioned, the warrior getting the drops. While the wiz needs to stay far away, the warrior is always getting the drops . Maybe somethin can be done bout that?

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PsychoGoten
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/11/2001 :  22:11:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I DIDNT READ ALL THE POSTS AND I WONT BE READING THIS THREAD AGAIN

BUT FFS!!!!! X3 DC ARE YOU FUKING CRAZY!!!!!!

THAT WOULD BE LIKE 120 DC

AND ALSO JUST TO SAY WARRIORS HAVE MP FROM LEVEL 1 IT JUST ISNT SHOWN ON A BAR TILL 28

AND IF IT TAKES HP THAT WOULD BE STUPID AS WELL IF YOU WERENT CONSENTRATING YOUD DIE

ACTUALLY ADD IT! WARRIORS NEED TO CONCENTRATE INSTEAD OF CLICK, WATCH TV CLICK


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RedMoonXO
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Canada
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Posted - 10/11/2001 :  23:01:20  Show Profile  Visit RedMoonXO's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well we already talked about MP for warrior. The HP usage takes up very little HP so don't worry.

You have a point. It might be too powerful.

FROM NOW ON, IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING, DON'T JUST COMPLAIN! SUGGEST SOMETHING BETTER OR SOMETHING!

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RedMoonXO
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Canada
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Posted - 10/12/2001 :  14:15:31  Show Profile  Visit RedMoonXO's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm going to adjust the damage of the slash wave, but I gota leave soon, so maybe 2moro

Whatever MIR is, it has sucked me in. I am totally committed to it. I breathe it. I talk it. Everything I do springs from some need of MIR. Sometimes I wonder what would happen to me if MIR went down. If somehow, without knowing it, I had failed a test...Go to Top of Page

Benpearse
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Posted - 10/12/2001 :  14:32:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you want the warrior to have spells why not just be a wiz in the first place..

The whole idea of the game is that each character has attributes which are more effective when used in a group!!!

What is the point of discussing this anyway??

They don't listen about the lag so what makes you think they'll listen to your hair-brained warrior spell ideas???

Stiill .. if you like living in Cloud-cuckoo land... who am I to stop you?????

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RedMoonXO
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Canada
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Posted - 10/12/2001 :  18:07:00  Show Profile  Visit RedMoonXO's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well if you don't like it, don't do us the favour of a bump

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