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LordNicoN
Advanced Member


United Kingdom
2586 Posts
Posted - 11/26/2001 :  20:42:16  Show Profile  Visit LordNicoN's Homepage
I would just like to point out how sad the5thelement are for needing to call upon 5 guilds to help them take Sabuk Wall from about 15 people.

It was fun killing you but ffs 5 guilds??? Was there any need? I think not.

Well you had your fun and I had mine.

Back to leveling up solo.

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typic37
Junior Member


United Kingdom
124 Posts
Posted - 11/26/2001 :  21:16:57  Show Profile
Lets get 1 thing straight we didnt call on guilds to help they asked us if they could,so why should we turn down the offer of some help.You to have allies so where were they?.Its not my fault that most of the guild jumped ship before the seige.We were just prepared thats all.We could have walked into sabuk to be greated by outlaw and there allies however this didnt happen.Yes i agree it is sad to take sabuk in such circumstances.But untill someone puts up a fight what do u expect.

DragonHart
The5thElement
Lvl32 Warrior & GuildLeader
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9123
Junior Member


United Kingdom
126 Posts
Posted - 11/26/2001 :  21:18:36  Show Profile
well said

Gandalm lvl 21 wiz
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LordNicoN
Advanced Member


United Kingdom
2586 Posts
Posted - 11/26/2001 :  21:29:54  Show Profile  Visit LordNicoN's Homepage
quote:

Lets get 1 thing straight we didnt call on guilds to help they asked us if they could,so why should we turn down the offer of some help.You to have allies so where were they?.Its not my fault that most of the guild jumped ship before the seige.We were just prepared thats all.We could have walked into sabuk to be greated by outlaw and there allies however this didnt happen.Yes i agree it is sad to take sabuk in such circumstances.But untill someone puts up a fight what do u expect.

DragonHart
The5thElement
Lvl32 Warrior & GuildLeader


Bollox The5thElement is just TheOutlaw under a new name!

This server is well gone. It's over as far as Im concerned. Tonight proved that there will never be a real war.

At least I had the balls to face up to all you sad fuks. A big well done to all Outlaws - you did well to hold the wall for 45 minutes against 5 guilds.

And for the rest of you...

LMAO!

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p0rks0da
Junior Member


USA
273 Posts
Posted - 11/26/2001 :  21:53:47  Show Profile  Visit p0rks0da's Homepage
quote:

quote:

Lets get 1 thing straight we didnt call on guilds to help they asked us if they could,so why should we turn down the offer of some help.You to have allies so where were they?.Its not my fault that most of the guild jumped ship before the seige.We were just prepared thats all.We could have walked into sabuk to be greated by outlaw and there allies however this didnt happen.Yes i agree it is sad to take sabuk in such circumstances.But untill someone puts up a fight what do u expect.

DragonHart
The5thElement
Lvl32 Warrior & GuildLeader


Bollox The5thElement is just TheOutlaw under a new name!

This server is well gone. It's over as far as Im concerned. Tonight proved that there will never be a real war.

At least I had the balls to face up to all you sad fuks. A big well done to all Outlaws - you did well to hold the wall for 45 minutes against 5 guilds.

And for the rest of you...

LMAO!

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Outlaw had 5 days NicoN.. 5 days to make allies and ready themselves
instead the poor leadership of TheOutlaw choose to waste substatial funds in a war with 5thElement 2 days prior. Where we again slaughterd u. WITH NO ALLIES INVOLVED. what u got to say to that??


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LordNicoN
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United Kingdom
2586 Posts
Posted - 11/26/2001 :  22:11:45  Show Profile  Visit LordNicoN's Homepage
I found out about that 'event' after it was over. I heard that a few Outlaw members were online at the time and you killed a few. No biggie.

I rejoined for the war and war only. The leadership of the guild has nothing to do with me unless they want me to join as leader. Professor and BJB did a decent job in my eyes. Your guild however took the piss in a major way that left me no to little respect for The5thElement as DragonHart stated that he wants the game to be fair. LMAO how fair it was lol.

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michaelJ
Starting Member


United Kingdom
5 Posts
Posted - 11/26/2001 :  22:34:06  Show Profile
LordNickoN thanx for helping us defend Sabuk wall i
too congradulate all Outlaw members for doing a gr8 job
@ such over wellming odds!

i believe we did a surpurb job and i would like to say thanx
to Professor and BJB for the gr8 leadership during the war!
u are true leaders and i would be honered to fight alone u
in the next attack to regain sabuk!

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SHANSHUI
Junior Member


United Kingdom
152 Posts
Posted - 11/27/2001 :  00:28:11  Show Profile
NicoN why are you so mad m8, so they did have alot of support...... But it was support for the real Outlaws, the same Outlaws you help make..... You should look at it like this, you actually help build the 5th Element, you should take pride in the fact the players you worked, laughed and played along side become so strong......

I feel theres no need to put peoples leadership down, insult or even comment on the plans of each guild..... The strongest guild won, I feel without support they would still have taken the wall.....

Becareful what you write in your posts because these people were and are freinds, don't ruin a freindship over Sabuk....

SCOOBY

I may have died, but in your hearts I will live as the annoying bloke who wouldn't stand still !!!!

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p0rks0da
Junior Member


USA
273 Posts
Posted - 11/27/2001 :  00:44:02  Show Profile  Visit p0rks0da's Homepage
quote:

NicoN why are you so mad m8, so they did have alot of support...... But it was support for the real Outlaws, the same Outlaws you help make..... You should look at it like this, you actually help build the 5th Element, you should take pride in the fact the players you worked, laughed and played along side become so strong......

I feel theres no need to put peoples leadership down, insult or even comment on the plans of each guild..... The strongest guild won, I feel without support they would still have taken the wall.....

Becareful what you write in your posts because these people were and are freinds, don't ruin a freindship over Sabuk....

SCOOBY

I may have died, but in your hearts I will live as the annoying bloke who wouldn't stand still !!!!



well said m8.. very well said!!!

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p0rks0da
Junior Member


USA
273 Posts
Posted - 11/27/2001 :  00:53:15  Show Profile  Visit p0rks0da's Homepage
Nicon:
lemme ask u this...

If it had been TheOutlaw that had shown up strong w/allies would
you have then here on the boards gloating about the wonderful job your guild has done. And how bad u massacred us?? I think u would.

now lemme as u this.
Should the 5thElement knowing that TheOutlaw was at one time 120 strong have shown up to take a beating or should we have done as we did and prepared for the worst?

or maybe...
we should have sent in a scout to do a 'head' count then only sent a few people to make it 'even'?

In my eyes NicoN no matter what we would have done u would have found a reason to come to these forums and bash us. We turned in the Relic with every intention of taking the wall. We've done that. What guild would do it any different? What if we had not called in our allies, and shown up to find all of Elite there allied with TheOutlaw?

We set out to take the wall.. we did that.. get over it m8.

Congrats to my fellow guildmembers and our Allies on a job well done.
And thanks to everyone that showed up.. I had alot of fun.

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Marshfarmer
Average Member


United Kingdom
711 Posts
Posted - 11/27/2001 :  01:24:59  Show Profile  Visit Marshfarmer's Homepage
Well doesn`t this put a dampener on an otherwise fun evening? Why is it that Yourself LordNicoN, who only rejoined Outlaw today for the war, see fit to stand in judgement over the rest of the server? I like many others resent being labelled as a `sad fuk` because YOU weren`t able to win tonight. I`d like to have thought you were bigger than your ego and I hope this is just an angry burst made in a moment of madness? Outlaw did excellent tonight and I think BJB and Prof did a great job - but please don`t tar the entire server and throw your dolly out of the pram because you lost for whatever reason.
Tonight was fun for everyone it seems except you. take a chill pill, relax and play the GAME - nobody made any enemies tonight until these posts started?

MARSHFARMER
The5thElement
Lvl 28 Tao

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typic37
Junior Member


United Kingdom
124 Posts
Posted - 11/27/2001 :  02:37:41  Show Profile
Im sorry but i dont think we were unfair at all.We declared a war on saturday this in itself relieved some bordom that would have lead to random pking from both sides.We didnt sneak in and kill archers.We turned up with our allies for a Sabuk conquest.Im not gonna waste my time replying anymore to this topic.We did nothing wrong,all your post has done has made us out to be something were not.Im sorry you dont like the fact that some guilds actually wanted to help us,but im afraid its part of the game like it or not.

I dunno whats happening i havent used a swear word in one reply to this post,oh well i save it for the next one.

DragonHart
The5thElement
Lvl32 Warrior & GuildLeader
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LordNicoN
Advanced Member


United Kingdom
2586 Posts
Posted - 11/27/2001 :  03:51:52  Show Profile  Visit LordNicoN's Homepage
When us TheOutlaw turned up to take Sabuk Wall from Ancient Angels I came to the forum and complained that they didnt show - so you are 100% WRONG! I wanted AA to turn up and fight but they didnt.

Secondly I did not gloat on the forums that we won I stated fact that they didnt even bother to show up. Why? Coz what use is a war when there is either nobody there or only a small handfull of members.

You ALL knew how many members TheOutlaw had online as 3 of your members were in Sabuk Wall until 5-10 minutes before conquest. Again, please do not deny this as I messaged you and your other members who showed up to see how many of us were there to leave and come back when the due date was set.

Yes, I joined for the fun of it! BUT...you all knew the status, the situation, the member count and the from various sources, yet still seen fit to call forth a wide selection of allies for such an event. You yourself DragonHart said on these forums you wanted to make this server interesting by having a new guild to challenge both TheOutlaw and Elite so that there is no uneven advantage. Where as you recruited as many OUtlaw members as you possibly could and then your friends and allied guild aswell. Hell, most of your members asked me to join you guys! How would you like it if 14 of the 15 Outlaws were to join you too? That would make the 'war' the same as what it was last time when we walked in and claimed Sabuk from BabyBear.

As for the 'fun' in the game and in the evening. What fun? Do you class 5 guilds v 15 people FUN? I class that as SAD! People complained when I setup the most powerful guild on the server yet you do likewise with your 'attack' on Sabuk.

Understand my point? There will NEVER be a REAL war on this server if people start acting like this!

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Marshfarmer
Average Member


United Kingdom
711 Posts
Posted - 11/27/2001 :  04:02:13  Show Profile  Visit Marshfarmer's Homepage
I don`t understand what difference it makes who was in SW before the war started. How is anyone expected to guage the size of the opposition by seeing how many people were running around inside Sabuk prior to the conquest? I have seen prof in BW for DAYS now recruiting anyone over level 22 - free entry. You trying to tell me after that sort of recruiting we were expected to believe you would be there with only 15 people???? Just more proof of the type of Guild Outlaw has become by recruiting ANYONE so long as level 22+ and free entrance? You seem to feel we should have known there would be so few people defending Sabuk but we have only Wiz`s, Tao`s and warriors - no clairvoyant`s in the ranks sorry! A week to prepare, mass recruitment campaign, allies of your own and so we prepare accordingly. We didn`t fail in our preparation but you seriously failed in your own. There is nobody else here to blame but Outlaw themselves so take it on the chin, admit defeat graciously and FFS stop going on about how `unfair` this was, it`s a war FFS!!!!
One I might add that EVERYONE else seemed to enjoy!

MARSHFARMER
The5thElement
Lvl 28 Tao

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LordNicoN
Advanced Member


United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  04:15:56  Show Profile  Visit LordNicoN's Homepage
I rejoined for the war online I didnt have weeks to prepare for anything. I was simply another player actually trying to make the war some sort of challenge...unlike some!

If the guild went downhill since I left to level up you guys who quit to join The5thElement only have yourselves to blame. I did my job and it was that to form a solid guild that couldnt be touched. Infact thus proves my point as nobody put in for conquest but Outlaw members themselves when you couldnt control a guild full of experienced players from dragon combined with the best levels on phoenix.

I turned up to help but was shocked to see attitude used by a guild leader who wanted to make Sabuk Wall conquests FAIR!

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Marshfarmer
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  04:25:27  Show Profile  Visit Marshfarmer's Homepage
quote:

I rejoined for the war online I didnt have weeks to prepare for anything. I was simply another player actually trying to make the war some sort of challenge...unlike some!

If the guild went downhill since I left to level up you guys who quit to join The5thElement only have yourselves to blame. I did my job and it was that to form a solid guild that couldnt be touched. Infact thus proves my point as nobody put in for conquest but Outlaw members themselves when you couldnt control a guild full of experienced players from dragon combined with the best levels on phoenix.

I turned up to help but was shocked to see attitude used by a guild leader who wanted to make Sabuk Wall conquests FAIR!

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I think to be fair, when you left it was in a mess. Yes, we had boosted numbers to a great degree but those numbers included Drop thieves, PKers, beggars and idiots. What you left behind was a large number of players with completely different views of the game. Strength isn`t determined by numbers but in Quality and that went out the window with the `cadets`. Yeah, admittedly, some turned out to be good players but that`s just law of averages. What we did after you left was to try to clean up the mess you inadvertantly left us and it proved to much a task for ANYONE! We all gave it our best shot, even those of us that had never done it before, before the complete disregard shown and squabbling would prove too much for a saint.
So in retrospect, it`s not us guys who quit to join 5thElement to blame - if there is any blame at all, it`s your own.

MARSHFARMER
The5thElement
Lvl 28 Tao

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LordNicoN
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  04:38:18  Show Profile  Visit LordNicoN's Homepage
Clear to me that you fail to see the use of having vast experienced players at your disposal even though they're lower levels - they have the experience worthy of any level on this server.

The blame sadly goes on the leaders after me that quit - I did let you know I was always here for help and I was only a message away. Did I get a message as such? No, I got nothing other than about 5-10 people per day wanting to join. Yes the guild had some bad apples, but so do other guilds...all you do is remove the bad apples and the tree fruits again. I removed all PKs from the guild and what do you do? You make a known red PK guildleader in my leveling break.

As for the cadet system...posts from Quetzal and FrizzleFry prove that they stood by the idea 100% on TheOutlaw's official website. If you all left due to this option - why did you all agree to it in the first place? I did make my ideas open to the guild in public access yet you fail to distribute feedback. I think you're just using that as a method of switching blame to me when it's obvious that all members agreed to it thinking it was a great idea but couldnt handle the setbacks that come with such a powerful guild.

You think Im to blame still? You can only blame yourselves!


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Marshfarmer
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  05:02:29  Show Profile  Visit Marshfarmer's Homepage
This could go forever with everyone blaming each other and we`re gonna get absolutely nowhere. The crux of the matter is that whoever`s to blame, Outlaw went tits up despite people trying very hard to keep it afloat. The rot set in and people drifted and are still drifting away. Yes people agreed to a cadet system, in theory a great idea, but those people that agreed to it then were of the opinion that this was going to be your baby and leader after leader left because, as you did, people needed to level and were unable to in the Guild Leader position. I did everything I could to sort out the Elite problems when I stepped in to try to strengthen alliances and what happened? I logged in one day to find out we had declared war on them! That was pretty much the final straw for me and the Main reason i left along with wanting to level also. It wasn`t that leaders didn`t show willing, it was these `experienced` members recruited through various sources that thought a war might be cool. Everything taken into account, I think the current leaders have done a great job but you can`t turn a pigs ear into a silk purse and it reached a point at one stage, bar 2 or 3, I could barely recognise a single member`s name. The Guild is responsible for it`s own downfall and it`s wrong of you to criticize people for joining 5thElement after `abandoning` or `jumping ship` from Outlaw when all we were doing was seperating ourselves from a Guild dragging us down and joining up with past mates in a more together guild. We did exactly what you did but grouped together after leaving.
Let`s face facts, Outlaws days were well and truly numbered long before the war and only Outlaw is to blame. Even Rastilin staged a setup with Targaric to start a war - is that the behaviour of the Rastilin everyone started Outlaw with??? If the founder tries to destroy the guild, what chance do the rest of it have?

MARSHFARMER
The5thElement
Lvl 28 Tao

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PURPLERONNIERULZ
Junior Member



256 Posts
Posted - 11/27/2001 :  08:54:08  Show Profile
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NicoN why are you so mad m8, so they did have alot of support...... But it was support for the real Outlaws, the same Outlaws you help make..... You should look at it like this, you actually help build the 5th Element, you should take pride in the fact the players you worked, laughed and played along side become so strong......

I feel theres no need to put peoples leadership down, insult or even comment on the plans of each guild..... The strongest guild won, I feel without support they would still have taken the wall.....

Becareful what you write in your posts because these people were and are freinds, don't ruin a freindship over Sabuk....

SCOOBY

I may have died, but in your hearts I will live as the annoying bloke who wouldn't stand still !!!!



DAMMIT SCOOB Y DO U HAVE TO B SO PC (thats politicly correct to all u stupid people) however i have to say m8 i agree with u, and yet Lord Nikon is being a dumb ass

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Marshfarmer
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  09:02:22  Show Profile  Visit Marshfarmer's Homepage
Difficult to keep a guild afloat Prof when Lord just makes you all seem like bad losers (although we know different eh?!)
cut out the bad bits!

MARSHFARMER
The5thElement
Lvl 28 Tao

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SHANSHUI
Junior Member


United Kingdom
152 Posts
Posted - 11/27/2001 :  09:11:03  Show Profile
No LordNicoN is not being a "Dumbass"...... He is a highly respected and outstanding player in the game, like most who took part..... You will all take his posts as "Bad looser" and "Sour Grapes" but think about what hes trying to say....... He wanted a good war with a bit of tension, a war where you wasn't sure who was gonna win.... Not one where it was a matter of how long we could hold 'em back....

I see NicoN's point, you just don't realise he has a different type of way to expressing his opions ( You all know his an original character )..... Thats what make his posts so funny.... If everyone were the same this server and forum would be boring...... Let people say what they want don't all be so serious....... And knock the insults off, you never know someone may take offence " you MORONS!"

SCOOBY

"Better lock up the windows boy's, theres a STORM comin' !"

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Marshfarmer
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  09:19:27  Show Profile  Visit Marshfarmer's Homepage
I think you forget who started with the insults m8. I take offence to being called `sad fuks`
LordNicoN started ALL these posts with nothing but criticism and all done with a `holier than thou` attitude.
Live by the sword................


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The5thElement
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Quetzal
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United Kingdom
160 Posts
Posted - 11/27/2001 :  09:25:38  Show Profile  Visit Quetzal's Homepage  Send Quetzal an ICQ Message
quote:
As for the cadet system...posts from Quetzal and FrizzleFry prove that they stood by the idea 100% on TheOutlaw's official website.

Yes I did agree to the Cadet program, but on the basis that there would be only 5 cadets maximum which would have 1 day in the guild before being removed. When I decided to leave the total number of cadets was 20, some of them had been in the guild over a week. Its one thing agreeing to a set of ideas - it was the fact that you amended them as you went along that annoyed so many of the original members (myself included).

One other thing I ask Nicon. Why is it you have created 2 topics of whining when they are both about the same thing? You yourself go on about the annoyances of spamming. Now I have to go and check the other thread...

Quetzal
=The5thElement=
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PURPLERONNIERULZ
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  09:30:18  Show Profile
SCOOBY have u read wot he's saying?? ,he saying 5th element are OUTLAW. now if thats not wrong then i dont know what is. If i made a new guild would that make it DARK SOULS? i realy doubt it would, because we all have different ways of organisation and leadership. OUTLAW were gonners as soon as Nikon started recruting 'cadets' and every respected OUTLAW new that, so they left. AS SOON AS THEY LEFT THEY WERE NO LONGER OUTLAW! shall i say that again: AS SOON AS THEY LEFT THEY WERE NO LONGER OUTLAW

do we all get it yet? no? ok 1 more time

AS SOON AS THEY LEFT THEY WERE NO LONGER OUTLAW!


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PURPLERONNIERULZ
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  09:41:57  Show Profile
and heres ur proof:

quote:

I agree we must abandon cadet program and stop recruiting members.


GODFieldMarshal
Lvl30 Taoist


thats just 1 comment of many by respected ex outlaws

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Quetzal
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  10:01:45  Show Profile  Visit Quetzal's Homepage  Send Quetzal an ICQ Message
Well said Purpleronnie...while we on the subject of the creation of 5th, another reason The Outlaw was doomed was because of your blatant attempt to dominate the server Nicon - This went against everything the guild stood for. The founder (RASTILIN) stated many times that he did not want to dominate the server (hence the 250k entry fee he set). 5th was created as a guild that The Outlaw should have become but never did, mainly because of your power crazy recruiting and forum posts.

Slag us off all you like...its because of you 5th element is the guild it is today...so in a way Thankyou Nicon!!!

Quetzal
=The5thElement=
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LordNicoN
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  10:02:17  Show Profile  Visit LordNicoN's Homepage
The Cadet system was for 5 'newbies' only that would be rotated every few days which happened. 10-15 of the other Cadets were VERY experienced and well respected Dragon server users and about 5 of them were guild masters on Dragon. TheOutlaw were expecting to go to war with Elite over Sabuk so I recruited well respected and experienced players from Dragon that had fought in various guild wars to bring in the added knowledge of support and tactics for the guild while leveling up faster with the use of HTs and discount supplies.

It was clear to me that TheOutlaw of old lacked knowledge of the game so I boosted that aspect by bringing in advisers as most of you level 25-30 members were newbies in your own right as you had never fought in such a war - hence my concern to aid your knowledge in such.

The cadet system worked wonders - but I feel that you couldnt handle the fact that some level 11 warrior knew more about the game than a 31 warrior as he had actually been in a REAL Sabuk war.

If any of you had any real problems with the cadet system you should of just spoken out instead of planning behind peoples backs! I did what the GUILD wanted and if the guild didnt want that I made it clear I would neglect any aspect that the majority didnt see fit. If what you say is true then your lack of communication ruined the idea.

Quetzal - I made two posts stating the following. 1: The5th were sad for bringing a 5 guild army to take Sabuk from 15 people - hence no competition. 2: my second post to highlight the fact that if ALL future Sabuk Wall conquests are like the last three this server is as good as dead. There is NO fun and NO competition in one-sided wars - unllke that you get on Dragon! Dragon server maybe full of PKs, drop stealers and the like, but when it comes to Sabuk wars they are actual wars and not some sad 50-80 people v 15 etc.

UNDERSTAND!

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Quetzal
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  10:10:00  Show Profile  Visit Quetzal's Homepage  Send Quetzal an ICQ Message
quote:
Quetzal - I made two posts stating the following. 1: The5th were sad for bringing a 5 guild army to take Sabuk from 15 people - hence no competition. 2: my second post to highlight the fact that if ALL future Sabuk Wall conquests are like the last three this server is as good as dead. There is NO fun and NO competition in one-sided wars - unllke that you get on Dragon! Dragon server maybe full of PKs, drop stealers and the like, but when it comes to Sabuk wars they are actual wars and not some sad 50-80 people v 15 etc.



Damn, what was I thinking...of course there are only 7 guilds on the server...TheOutlaw and 5th element+5 allies. C'mon Nicon there are plenty of other guilds on the server you could have allied with. If the servers as good as dead why stay on it?

Quetzal
=The5thElement=
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LordNicoN
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  10:10:46  Show Profile  Visit LordNicoN's Homepage
quote:

Slag us off all you like...its because of you 5th element is the guild it is today...so in a way Thankyou Nicon!!!

Quetzal
=The5thElement=
Guildleader


Then why did almost all your members ask me to join The5theElement the same day of the war? I had MANY whispers and conversations with your members bugging me to join you.

If everyone hated what I had done why in *ahem* GODs name did you all want me to join you?

I just helped TheOutlaw in their hour of need as it was clear you and your mates just wanted to STORM Sabuk and not actually fight to get it (just like every other time we had a war - little to no people turned up!) After seeing your rather sad act by bringing 5 other guilds to kill off 15 people...it really did let me down to think that the5th was setup to make the server fair and split equally into three strong guilds.

I say again...if these events continue there will never be a REAL Sabuk war!

Please do accept the points and facts Im making!

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PURPLERONNIERULZ
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  10:14:26  Show Profile
They wanted u in probly cos ur a good bloke. they also prolly wanted u in cos they liked u b4 the 'cadet' program and they knew u would NEVER b 5th's guild leader

as they keep saying.. they want 5th to b like outlaw b4 all the changes U MADE!

THE LIVER IS EVIL AND MUST BE PUNISHED

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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  10:19:01  Show Profile  Visit LordNicoN's Homepage
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If the servers as good as dead why stay on it?

Quetzal
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You mean you would actually like to see ALL Sabuk Wars like this??? Where one side has supreme advantage over the other? Where the hell is the fun in that? At least on Dragon it was split into many areas of such.

Why do you class me as The Outlaw? I left to level and was not in charge of any events leading up to this so-called war. I was basically a neutral fighting for the underdogs as all 'real' outlaws are now The5thElement. I was fighting my mates here - there is no upset on my side other than the fact that from the looks of previous attempts on Sabuk this server sucks as all members here just want to support the attacking army and make this totally one-sided.

Jesus Q Im making valid points here that there wont be a decent war on this server if everyone wants to act this way come conquest. I would rather level up solo and group with the odd person that I actually give a damn about than take part in bullsh!t that brings forth a 5 guild v 15 people senario. I did my best to boost TheOutlaw to make it the best on the server and did just that, it looks to me that you guys just wanted everyone you could find to take part in this - hence my posts!

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