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LordNicoN
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Posted - 11/19/2001 :  23:20:04  Show Profile  Visit LordNicoN's Homepage
I hope you're pleased with yourself...

...You not only have proved to the forum readers, the mir community and the company of which you represent that you can not handle the job at hand you resort to slanderous comments.

If I were to be a 'pissant' I would send those comments that you made to the MiR staff and have you removed from the role Moderator. I am however not going to do that if I and the rest of this forum have an apology regarding you out of order comments and actions.

I however deal with business issues each day and know of my rights and your job description duties. I, unlike you, actually did something to prevent the other forum readers to view such spam I actually provided the information of who was behind it.

You have two options.

1) Do your job without insulting anyone and apologise to the forum community and myself.

2) Lock this post and force me to take action against you.

NOTE: I know my rights and I know exactly how to act and react to your bias and unpro methods.

I and the other members of this board await an apology from you!

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Tbird
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55 Posts
Posted - 11/20/2001 :  14:10:58  Show Profile
quote:

If I were to be a 'pissant' I would send those comments that you made to the MiR staff and have you removed from the role Moderator.

Now that had me ROFL for real, they dont answer support issues, they dont update us on the lag, they dont tell us whats happening with the next patch, they only post on news when the payment system go's down (bet that one was a REAL panic fix ) and you expect them to do something about a rogue mod on a board that doesn't work properly!!!!!!!!!!


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LordNicoN
Advanced Member


United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/20/2001 :  15:01:41  Show Profile  Visit LordNicoN's Homepage
If I emailed an official voice of complaint to the Trading Standard Office of Intercompany Community Relations, under the law stated in 1984 of such an act that if a paying customer being abused in such a way can claim compensation and hereby bring justice and by all means bad publicity and commerce directed at the company which forcing them to take action againtst the moderating body and representative in question being removed due to such actions...the laws of trading standards will act for me.

The law can suck...but it can also be good if used correctly. I did actually help the mods by removing the spam from direct public view and even tracing down the person behind it and issued the information to the mods they should at least say THANK YOU and not direct the term 'pissant' in my direction for aiding their workload.

Like I said...

You have two options.

1) Do your job without insulting anyone and apologise to the forum community and myself.

2) Lock this post and force me to take action against you.

NOTE: I know my rights and I know exactly how to act and react to your bias and unpro methods.

I and the other members of this board await an apology from you!


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p0rks0da
Junior Member


USA
273 Posts
Posted - 11/20/2001 :  15:33:52  Show Profile  Visit p0rks0da's Homepage
quote:

quote:

If I were to be a 'pissant' I would send those comments that you made to the MiR staff and have you removed from the role Moderator.

Now that had me ROFL for real, they dont answer support issues, they dont update us on the lag, they dont tell us whats happening with the next patch, they only post on news when the payment system go's down (bet that one was a REAL panic fix ) and you expect them to do something about a rogue mod on a board that doesn't work properly!!!!!!!!!!


hehe..
true soo true.. its crap that we bother to pay them.. but true.

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Smidsy666
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57 Posts
Posted - 11/20/2001 :  15:47:56  Show Profile
no.. seriously nicon... SHUT UP. if you dont like it, u quit. then the phoenix server is a better place. btw, moderators dont get payed.(at least the ones i know dont). imo yoU owe the moderators, and the MIR community an apology. *notice how i didnt resort to name calling* n00b. oops

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p0rks0da
Junior Member


USA
273 Posts
Posted - 11/20/2001 :  16:04:22  Show Profile  Visit p0rks0da's Homepage
quote:

no.. seriously nicon... SHUT UP. if you dont like it, u quit. then the phoenix server is a better place. btw, moderators dont get payed.(at least the ones i know dont). imo yoU owe the moderators, and the MIR community an apology. *notice how i didnt resort to name calling* n00b. oops

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U STFU!!
NicoN did us a service by bumping the Good topics up above the spam.
whats your ingame name??


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Psi
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191 Posts
Posted - 11/20/2001 :  20:54:09  Show Profile
How do you know demonz was around at the time? Just because nicon was on at the time this happened, and he helped fix the problem, means he can say the mod isnt doing his job? Some of these people may have social lives, and also play mir, (i know its shocking), u expect them to be monitoring the boards 24/7?

quote:
I and the other members of this board await an apology from you!

I've said it once, and i'm saying it again, speak for yourself.

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Babybear
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Belgium
657 Posts
Posted - 11/20/2001 :  21:14:09  Show Profile  Send Babybear an ICQ Message
I don't think Demonz need to apology,
you attacked him first,
and he just tried to defend himself,
nicon,you also reply on answers to defend yourself
if something bad is told about you,
and everyone has his own way of defending himself.

we moderators does this voluntary and don't get paid,
we only try to help things out a little,
we got no professional background or anything,
well atleast i didn't,
i never had any previous experiences with forums.

well thx for helping out the forum a little by bumping those,
just because you saw it earlier then we did,
but that doesn't mean you need to pick on us telling us we don't do our job

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Smidsy666
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Posted - 11/20/2001 :  22:08:00  Show Profile
my ingame name is Smidsy pork, remember me? im the one who isnt a complete muppet like u. and if u think im re-installing mir just so u can come and PK me then you really are as stupid as you sound


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p0rks0da
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USA
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Posted - 11/20/2001 :  22:44:19  Show Profile  Visit p0rks0da's Homepage
quote:

my ingame name is Smidsy pork, remember me? im the one who isnt a complete muppet like u. and if u think im re-installing mir just so u can come and PK me then you really are as stupid as you sound
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hehe.. i wouldn't PK u.. I aint a PK.. less your name is Titanium.
and u r a muppet cuz u don't even play the fukin game but still leech onto these boards like u do. Get a life freak boy.

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Smidsy666
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57 Posts
Posted - 11/20/2001 :  22:47:52  Show Profile
'get a life freak boy' yeah thats good... i quit Mir BECAUSE i HAD a life, and Mir was taking up too large a part of it. anybody with half a social life couldn't play Mir and get to a high level... which says alot about your social life doesnt it? mumpkin

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LordNicoN
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/20/2001 :  23:03:03  Show Profile  Visit LordNicoN's Homepage
Smidsy if you have/had a life why the hell are you still here? These boards do not concern you.

BabyBear you and DemonZ represent the company and all company representatives that fail to live up to the laws of the trading standards act can be removed for not supplying the services needs by being calm, helping others and WITHOUT the use or refrain to use insulting language towards the customers of the company that you represent.

E.G. If you work for a charity shop and someone enters the shop saying "can you please serve me I would like to buy this" or "this shop is very untidy you should do something about it, it's very dangerous" and if you turned around and said "STFU U PISSANT" You would be removed from your position of voluntary status and trading standards laws can and will be used against you! UNDERSTAND?

BabyBear DemonZ has NO right to say those things to me or to anyone and neither do you. If moderators get personal they have then crossed the line of the job description and can be removed for such actions - FACT! For him locking topics that hit a nerve prove that he is just not cut out to be a moderator as all staff reps shouldnt let a simple complaint effect their 'ego' and current role.

Finally...I was the only person that did something. If the moderators are not on the forum then why even be a mod? Why dont MIR actually give moderator status to people that actually are on the boards spread out the day. Ive never even seen this 'DemonZ' ONCE on these forums other than calling people names.

Face fact...the moderator of locking the topic and insulting members is the one in the wrong not the paying customers who tried to help.

This is the last time I ever help any of you do your job!

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.TheGreatOne.
Junior Member


United Kingdom
336 Posts
Posted - 11/20/2001 :  23:17:49  Show Profile
have i missed something? has a gm actually said something? where is this? pls im really interested i aint ever seen a gm b 4 common nicon gimme a link pls

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LordNicoN
Advanced Member


United Kingdom
2586 Posts
Posted - 11/20/2001 :  23:27:42  Show Profile  Visit LordNicoN's Homepage
He's no GM, just a moderator that shows up only to insult people and lock topics that have no right to be locked.

Here's ONE of the links...

http://www.livewiregames.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=39823

...as you can see - very unpro moderator that can not accept or handle complaints. It's in his job description to work with complaints not lock them away and insult paying customers.

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Solankii
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118 Posts
Posted - 11/20/2001 :  23:28:52  Show Profile
You dont pay for the web site.
You dont pay to access the forums.
The moderators do not get paid.
The moderators do not work for MIR.

Trading standards???

It certainly would give them a good laugh.
Trading standards laws can only be used when trade has occured.

The act of bumping the topics was a good one.
And good acts speak for themselves.
If you had left it at that you might have got a bit of respect.
You, unfortunatly, ruined that.
Moderators give their time freely. And I, for one, respect them for it.
You want a moderator on the forum 24/7????
Why????
Is the world going to end because there are a few pages of spam on the forum for a few hours?? At worst this is inconvient.


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PURPLERONNIERULZ
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256 Posts
Posted - 11/20/2001 :  23:38:40  Show Profile
all i say is THANK U MODERATORS

ur work b4 this incident has been noticed by at least a few people.. i just couldent find the right place to put it.

lord nikon, u are right to b pissed, but if u kept ur vertual mouth shut this would never have happened. as it is it did happen, and im sure by now u can both see ur errors, and i hope you are both sorry.

Purpleronnie: lvl 26 warrior

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Solankii
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118 Posts
Posted - 11/20/2001 :  23:43:55  Show Profile
Yeah - faults on both sides - time to let this rest???

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Psi
Junior Member



191 Posts
Posted - 11/20/2001 :  23:46:59  Show Profile
quote:
Is the world going to end because there are a few pages of spam on the forum for a few hours??

Not for most people but...

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BJB
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52 Posts
Posted - 11/20/2001 :  23:59:21  Show Profile
LordNicon, the mods are doing their job for free in their free time. We have to thank them instead of blowing up some things. Besides, what is spamming about BinLaden compared to things IRL like NY. Dont take everything too serious and try to put everything in perspective.

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Maxiburn.
Junior Member


United Kingdom
106 Posts
Posted - 11/21/2001 :  00:03:23  Show Profile
yes guys but the mods represent mir im sure they no that

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LordNicoN
Advanced Member


United Kingdom
2586 Posts
Posted - 11/21/2001 :  00:11:31  Show Profile  Visit LordNicoN's Homepage
quote:

You dont pay for the web site.
You dont pay to access the forums.
The moderators do not get paid.
The moderators do not work for MIR.

Trading standards???

It certainly would give them a good laugh.
Trading standards laws can only be used when trade has occured.

The act of bumping the topics was a good one.
And good acts speak for themselves.
If you had left it at that you might have got a bit of respect.
You, unfortunatly, ruined that.
Moderators give their time freely. And I, for one, respect them for it.
You want a moderator on the forum 24/7????
Why????
Is the world going to end because there are a few pages of spam on the forum for a few hours?? At worst this is inconvient.


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I see you're unfamiliar with the laws of trade. They represent the company of which are supplying a service and supporting act towards all paying customers. Like I said before, Red Cross charity workers that work on the same basis get removed from their positions if acting out of order.

I know my rights and if they want to insult US the paying customers I can only but state facts and put them in their place!

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LordNicoN
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United Kingdom
2586 Posts
Posted - 11/21/2001 :  00:14:40  Show Profile  Visit LordNicoN's Homepage
quote:

all i say is THANK U MODERATORS

ur work b4 this incident has been noticed by at least a few people.. i just couldent find the right place to put it.

lord nikon, u are right to b pissed, but if u kept ur vertual mouth shut this would never have happened. as it is it did happen, and im sure by now u can both see ur errors, and i hope you are both sorry.

Purpleronnie: lvl 26 warrior

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Edited by - purpleronnierulz on 11/20/2001 23:39:53


Facts have it that I and all paying customers of mir have the right to complain about a service that isnt carried out. I spoke and acted on behalf of the community and forum readers as you do not want to see such spam when you check out the forums and when I helped remove it and highlight the person behind it one of them insults me?

Is that because I did your job? All I ask is for you to try your best and refrain from insulting the paying customers of the company that you represent.

Is that too much to ask? I think not!

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LordNicoN
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/21/2001 :  00:18:15  Show Profile  Visit LordNicoN's Homepage
quote:

LordNicon, the mods are doing their job for free in their free time. We have to thank them instead of blowing up some things. Besides, what is spamming about BinLaden compared to things IRL like NY. Dont take everything too serious and try to put everything in perspective.

broem broem
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Thank them for what? What have they done? Only BabyBear even posts on these forums.

People spamming Bin Laden crap all over the boards offends a lot of people and I did my best to push them to the foot of the forum so most people do not even see it.

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LordNicoN
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/21/2001 :  00:21:03  Show Profile  Visit LordNicoN's Homepage
quote:

yes guys but the mods represent mir im sure they no that

die ls die


My point exactly!

They are working for MIR even if they get paid or not. Once under the banner of the company they have to live up to the company methods and that is - NOT TO INSULT THE PAYING CUSTOMERS!

Fact, truth, end of story - NOW DO YOUR JOB WITHOUT RESORTING TO SUCH METHODS!

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Magicdude
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/21/2001 :  00:32:31  Show Profile  Send Magicdude an ICQ Message
quote:

quote:

You dont pay for the web site.
You dont pay to access the forums.
The moderators do not get paid.
The moderators do not work for MIR.

Trading standards???

It certainly would give them a good laugh.
Trading standards laws can only be used when trade has occured.

The act of bumping the topics was a good one.
And good acts speak for themselves.
If you had left it at that you might have got a bit of respect.
You, unfortunatly, ruined that.
Moderators give their time freely. And I, for one, respect them for it.
You want a moderator on the forum 24/7????
Why????
Is the world going to end because there are a few pages of spam on the forum for a few hours?? At worst this is inconvient.


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You've been an angel every day of your life, now you wonder what it's like to be dammed

Olorin, Wizard


I see you're unfamiliar with the laws of trade. They represent the company of which are supplying a service and supporting act towards all paying customers. Like I said before, Red Cross charity workers that work on the same basis get removed from their positions if acting out of order.

I know my rights and if they want to insult US the paying customers I can only but state facts and put them in their place!

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Lord m8 just dont bother, seems most people who replied to you on this board simply dont understand what you are saying, if you are really pissed off about this do it in the background if possible, like I said some of the people who replied clearly dont undestand and will keep arguing until you or they give up and even if you do convice them at the end it will not change anything.

And for people who thinks Lord is wrong, well, I been a "FREE" GM for both a game and a forum and what DemonZ did is an instant ban Even if the game is free and you dont get paid and you didnt have any training you are still responsable for your actions. DemonZ might not get paid but Lord like all of you is paying for this game.

To tell you the truth, MIR Staff is the biggest joke on Online Gaming I have ever seen in my life! Give 10 monkeys a PC and they can do a better job with the game. (Not directed @ board mods or programmers but mainly MAPO the D ickheadGM I mean HeadGM), in my opinion MAPO is the worse head GM I have ever seen! and worse by a loooooooooooooooooong shot compared to the 2nd worse! Well I was a head GM once, and he's a lot worse than I was! so there you go

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dutchking
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Posted - 11/21/2001 :  07:33:53  Show Profile  Visit dutchking's Homepage  Send dutchking an ICQ Message
im back again :D


please stop whining about mods this. You all must be happy that there ARE moderators. Without them there woulb be much much more spam. So if they arent online for a hours or more (cause they have a personal life to) then suddenly somone is gonna spam. They someone say that is is the mods fault

thats not good



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LordNicoN
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Posted - 11/21/2001 :  08:38:25  Show Profile  Visit LordNicoN's Homepage
It's their comments and actions towards the users that bothers people they have NO right to talk that way to ANYONE!

GET IT!

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Re†Nu
Junior Member


Vatican City
207 Posts
Posted - 11/21/2001 :  11:05:21  Show Profile
quote:

If I emailed an official voice of complaint to the Trading Standard Office of Intercompany Community Relations, under the law stated in 1984 of such an act that if a paying customer being abused in such a way can claim compensation and hereby bring justice and by all means bad publicity and commerce directed at the company which forcing them to take action againtst the moderating body and representative in question being removed due to such actions...the laws of trading standards will act for me.

would that not be the Criminal justice and public order act (C.J.P.O)(1998) that was brought in by the labour Gov. (after they came into power in 1997) to amend the act you stated?????????

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Venom.
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Posted - 11/21/2001 :  11:06:11  Show Profile
LOL

I been away on forums for a while and Ic nothing has chanced at all. nicon stil has to wine and post comments on every post ppl do. And off course, the usual amount of complaining on GM's and forum moderators.

Damn u got nothing better to do then complaining and wining all the time?!

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Re†Nu
Junior Member


Vatican City
207 Posts
Posted - 11/21/2001 :  11:09:04  Show Profile
oh yeah and to get Demon Z "removed" from mir staff + charged....you would have to show prove of his employment (in the form of an empolyment sheet or p60 and i dont think that mods have been asked to produce/sign these documents)

before you start thinking you know the law and stuff like that make sure you know your SH|T

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