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memememe
Starting Member


United Kingdom
37 Posts
Posted - 12/11/2001 :  16:50:05  Show Profile
It would appear that lom let hackers in to our accounts, to rifle and steal, with complete imunity.!!!
My sons CHAR "DIDS" was hacked on sunday 9 th dec at 7.15 pm and we have had no access since.
The hacker has now used an encrypted password. used my sons char to steal con, lie and kill.
numerous emails to lom have had no result. surely lom can trace this scumbag who has, and still is using our sons account ?
What kind of scum low life would do this to a ten year old boy ?
YOU MUST FREEZE THIS ACCOUNT AND NOW !!!!!!!!!!!
Take note lom, we paid for six accounts in one go, this will not be renewed ! we have all had enough of the injustices in this game.
Impress us NOW sort "dids" account and return it to the paying customer.

matty_uk88
Average Member


United Kingdom
624 Posts
Posted - 12/11/2001 :  17:03:04  Show Profile  Visit matty_uk88's Homepage
stop hacking!!!whats the point???its only a game!!!your going to go to jail because of a game sooooostop hacking!!!!!!

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Squalion
Senior Member


United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/11/2001 :  17:40:24  Show Profile  Visit Squalion's Homepage  Send Squalion an instant message
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Leia
Junior Member


United Kingdom
437 Posts
Posted - 12/11/2001 :  17:47:08  Show Profile
i really hate this...

most of mir population are youger players and i hate to think some sick people out there get pleasure from stealing from a child. that is just sick and twisted. remember back to when u were little, how would u like it if u lost something or someone took it, broke it then gave it back. don't think u'd like it much!

gms pls this is happening way too often, i know u r sorting out emails etc... but these people have paid and deserve to get something back for their hard earned cash. pls pls spend a little time on these people or u lose the trust of them and others, and i know ur working on patch at the moment but...this is quite serious :(

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matty_uk88
Average Member


United Kingdom
624 Posts
Posted - 12/11/2001 :  17:55:02  Show Profile  Visit matty_uk88's Homepage
i havent been on mir since beta(cause my pc is broken)but when i get back on and my accont has been hacked then i will go mad!!!!11

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wizzzzzardbird
Junior Member


United Kingdom
197 Posts
Posted - 12/11/2001 :  17:55:15  Show Profile
ok... erm firstly sympathy for ppl who get "hacked"....

but, can someone explain to me how the hell u get "hacked" in the first place ?

surely people arent stupid enough to give out passwords?? and surely ppl arent stupid enough to have the account name the same as the char name???

pls tell me what methods are used... so i know how to better protect myself... i have worked hard for all my items, and worked hard to get to my current lvl... i would NOT like this to happen to me.


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memememe
Starting Member


United Kingdom
37 Posts
Posted - 12/11/2001 :  18:02:27  Show Profile
Ta leia,
Yep its scum bags that ruin this game and if mir dont sort it then only scum will continue to play, the decent honest kind players are all starting to leave, and with payments now due for renewal then mir will soon find out !
Aparently "KNIGHTSOFHEAVEN" is the HACKER and is also supposed to have hacked "OMAR" surely mir can trace and confirm this ?
If they cant stop and trace this person and prosicute then there is no justice and the game is not worth playing !
Does anyone have the home address of this hacker ? pretty please !
A personal visit to this scum bag will lift my spirit no end.
I might be lvl 31 in the game but im a lvl 8 wing chun kung fu martial artist in real life and 2 mins with this hacker is all i want.

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memememe
Starting Member


United Kingdom
37 Posts
Posted - 12/11/2001 :  18:05:49  Show Profile
no passwords were ever given in the game, the hacker has hacked lom,!!!
not only as he changed the password but also the questions and answers used for security reasons, it is the responsibility of lom to rectify this !!1

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PsYcHiC
Average Member


United Kingdom
501 Posts
Posted - 12/12/2001 :  05:32:39  Show Profile
the thing is why did he go for 'dids' and not 'memememe' after all you are a higher lvl than 'dids'
but still 'dids' was is enough to be classed as a high lvl
it's sick the way, sad pathetic ppl go and do things like this!

btw orders from dids (real one)
dids IS TO BE KOS! untill this account is returned

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wizzzzzardbird
Junior Member


United Kingdom
197 Posts
Posted - 12/12/2001 :  05:46:02  Show Profile
ok ... answer me this...... if the "hacker" "hacked" LOM... why choose dids ?... why not toobad, guinty1, nomad, rob, wayne, puppykiss, cubass..... need i go on.

if what u say is true about actually "hacking" into LOM (the player database).... surely "hacker" can see all player accounts...

i think this method may be a little un-true.... but im open to sugggestion.. someone prove me wrong


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Ironballs
Junior Member


United Kingdom
196 Posts
Posted - 12/12/2001 :  05:51:21  Show Profile  Send Ironballs an ICQ Message
It is my guess ( i dont know ) that the majority of hackers get ids and passes from the chats within mir, I have been told that this is a simple file available on the server to be accessed, so if u msg someone in game with ur account details then it is possible for someone else to read it.Also i know a lot of people who "trade" characters only to find themselves "hacked" days later.

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wizzzzzardbird
Junior Member


United Kingdom
197 Posts
Posted - 12/12/2001 :  06:23:37  Show Profile
ok then..... if this is the case...

i have no sympathy for ppl who get "hacked"

you type ur name / password in game.. then ur a f00l... i dont care if it's to ur best mate... u dont reveal anything in game... or at any other time for that matter.

As far as trading accounts goes.. no sympathy there either, u dont like ur char.... delete it and start again.

I just find the whole "hacking" thing very odd... as i said b4, if they could see player database, they could see all players, and take whoever they want. So the only other possible method is ppl typing account details in game - tough sh*t


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sue
Starting Member


United Kingdom
46 Posts
Posted - 12/14/2001 :  15:11:28  Show Profile
the hacked dids char as now been returned to its rightful owner

the hacker had left his own details and email on the hacked dids account so we have emailed them to mir. so we hope they ban him and kick him off the forum. mir also know his forum name.

thanks to all that helped/believed us :)

sue (dids mum) :)

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Glaivier
Junior Member


United Kingdom
316 Posts
Posted - 12/14/2001 :  15:47:56  Show Profile
I have to say that though some of the "hacks" consist of blagging account names and passwords out of people, it seems that the most common one is whether the internet email account that the password reminder goes to is not secure. By gaining access to the email account, they can retrieve the password ... and then change all the details. It is not rocket-science. It does not make them big or hard, but rather shows how pathetic they are if the only way they can feel good about themselves is by p*ssing everyone off that much.

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LouD
Moderator


Netherlands
1432 Posts
Posted - 12/14/2001 :  15:51:18  Show Profile  Visit LouD's Homepage
I have pointed this out with Hober and they are looking
on the numerous account hackings if these are just
tradings or real hackings.

LouD - Warrior - lvl 29
BabyLouD - Wizard - lvl 14
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sedar2
Starting Member



39 Posts
Posted - 12/14/2001 :  16:00:24  Show Profile
ive been hacked 2 times in 2 weeks, and the e-mail address i used to subscribe/join LoM has also been hacked, by the hacker that stole my account, my forum ID has also been hacked, and mir support is not helping me at all, i payed with a credit card for this game, and they have records of a transaction, and are willing to help me leggaly get my account back!

hacked 2 times in 2 weeks, and LoM not helpig me *sigh*
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taskmaster
Average Member


South Africa
676 Posts
Posted - 12/14/2001 :  16:24:59  Show Profile  Visit taskmaster's Homepage
Not sure if the data is encrypted from the client, but you can do a sniff on the line to the login server and get all the information that way.

This might be the reason why only some people are hacked, if they truly are. When you sniff you usually take the data that you find the easiest. Alot of data passes over the line. I have heard of low levels being hacked and high levels. It seems random and that is why I think this might be why it seems random.

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Hawklord
Junior Member


Australia
392 Posts
Posted - 12/14/2001 :  16:39:26  Show Profile
quote:

It would appear that lom let hackers in to our accounts, to rifle and steal, with complete imunity.!!!
My sons CHAR "DIDS" was hacked on sunday 9 th dec at 7.15 pm and we have had no access since.
The hacker has now used an encrypted password. used my sons char to steal con, lie and kill.
numerous emails to lom have had no result. surely lom can trace this scumbag who has, and still is using our sons account ?
What kind of scum low life would do this to a ten year old boy ?
YOU MUST FREEZE THIS ACCOUNT AND NOW !!!!!!!!!!!
Take note lom, we paid for six accounts in one go, this will not be renewed ! we have all had enough of the injustices in this game.
Impress us NOW sort "dids" account and return it to the paying customer.

Sorry to hear that buddy! I too have a 10yo son that used to play LoM and although he has played plenty of online games like this one, Mir is the first one that he ever said "I don't want to play this anymore, everyones really nasty"!

Now he's gone back to Ultima Online which is Pk free, drop stealing free, has managed to get himself up to Illustrious Lord (they have titles instead of levels), is a well renowned blacksmith that makes some of the best weapons you can buy and bought himself a small house that he shares with 4 other 10 yo's. He rides around the world with his white horse (rare) and has a ball!

Do yourself a favour and spend the $9.99 that they charge for the game (plus monthly fee) and let him try it.

If it wasn't going to take so long (I'm in Australia), I would send you a UO disk that has 1 month free game play as well but it would take a while to patch up to up current levels. Would be OK if you're on cable. In fact, If you want to send me details of where to send it I will post one off to you if you like. Just email me at if you'd like one.

My regards to your boy!

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Hawklord
Junior Member


Australia
392 Posts
Posted - 12/14/2001 :  16:44:30  Show Profile
quote:

ive been hacked 2 times in 2 weeks, and the e-mail address i used to subscribe/join LoM has also been hacked, by the hacker that stole my account, my forum ID has also been hacked, and mir support is not helping me at all, i payed with a credit card for this game, and they have records of a transaction, and are willing to help me leggaly get my account back!

hacked 2 times in 2 weeks, and LoM not helpig me *sigh*


Not sure if you're aware of this, but you can have any credit card taransaction cancelled within 6 months of the transaction date. The funs will automatically be taken out of the payee's account and re-credited to your credit card!

Just ring your credit card provider and tell them you did not receive what you paid for, which sadly is very true.

In these cases the merchant, LoM does not have a leg to stand on!

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sedar2
Starting Member



39 Posts
Posted - 12/14/2001 :  16:52:05  Show Profile
but i would rather have my account back, im giving to this monday 6pm GMT, if i dont get it back by then.....

hacked 2 times in 2 weeks, and LoM not helpig me *sigh*
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Asmodean
Moderator


Finland
3169 Posts
Posted - 12/14/2001 :  17:11:41  Show Profile  Visit Asmodean's Homepage
quote:

ive been hacked 2 times in 2 weeks, and the e-mail address i used to subscribe/join LoM has also been hacked, by the hacker that stole my account, my forum ID has also been hacked, and mir support is not helping me at all, i payed with a credit card for this game, and they have records of a transaction, and are willing to help me leggaly get my account back!

hacked 2 times in 2 weeks, and LoM not helpig me *sigh*


Are you sure your passwords were sufficiently complex and long? Always have long passwords and preferably make them alphanumerical.

Think before you post...
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matty_uk88
Average Member


United Kingdom
624 Posts
Posted - 12/14/2001 :  17:27:44  Show Profile  Visit matty_uk88's Homepage
I hate you hackers!!!whats the point in risking a mazor jail sentance just for a pc game??? so why dont you juststop it!

screen name:matthew

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taskmaster
Average Member


South Africa
676 Posts
Posted - 12/14/2001 :  18:11:01  Show Profile  Visit taskmaster's Homepage
When you hack it is the thrill of hacking. The jail sentence is actually what makes it such a thrill.

Those guys have a specific personality and the more dangerous it gets the more they will want to do it.

I just think if WeMade encrypted the usernames and passwords that will already help, but they should just use a little encryption, they will really have to go 128bit. I created an encryption that one of my friend, a real hacker, cracked in 30 min with excel. I spent weeks on that encryption.

WeMade do log your IP address at the moment. One easy thing they can do is allow you to switch on a setting that only one IP address to log into the server or for people with a random IP the IP address of the server they dial into.

quote:

I hate you hackers!!!whats the point in risking a mazor jail sentance just for a pc game??? so why dont you juststop it!

screen name:matthew

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doo wah diddy,Diddy dum diddy doo


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Mambo
Junior Member


United Kingdom
223 Posts
Posted - 12/14/2001 :  18:21:05  Show Profile
Im sorry but a higher lvl warrior that is 10! im only 13 so i can remember when i was 10 and wasnt ever in! i havent played mir in ages and i dont plan on playing it until something good happens but i think a high lvl chararter that is 10 kinda...Sad...

Peace out

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jam_carter
New Member


United Kingdom
65 Posts
Posted - 12/14/2001 :  18:21:40  Show Profile  Visit jam_carter's Homepage
i was also hacked and lost all my money (over 5 million) and items. It is only thouygh the help of my freind (hacked in) & credit card prov that i managed to get back in.

I would like to support everyone i can.
Oh, and it anyone can lend me some gold i would be very grateful. Some nice perosn game me some dress. But i only have like 400 gold

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matty_uk88
Average Member


United Kingdom
624 Posts
Posted - 12/14/2001 :  18:34:12  Show Profile  Visit matty_uk88's Homepage
quote:

If you are dumb, you have to bleed


what the hell are you talking about!!!

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jam_carter
New Member


United Kingdom
65 Posts
Posted - 12/14/2001 :  18:36:31  Show Profile  Visit jam_carter's Homepage
were talking about the low state of security that LoM has and we want somthing done about it.

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Squalion
Senior Member


United Kingdom
1906 Posts
Posted - 12/14/2001 :  18:47:23  Show Profile  Visit Squalion's Homepage  Send Squalion an instant message
quote:

the hacker has hacked lom,!!!

retarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd

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Od1n
New Member


United Kingdom
59 Posts
Posted - 12/14/2001 :  19:18:55  Show Profile
quote:

quote:

If you are dumb, you have to bleed


what the hell are you talking about!!!

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Keano
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Posted - 12/14/2001 :  19:50:41  Show Profile  Visit Keano's Homepage
I am confused

When people say they have been "hacked" do they mean, "I entered into an agreement with some one else (swapped my charachter) who then failed to hold up his part of the agreement (did not have a charachater to swap with in the first place) then changed all the password details (because I gave them to him) and now I can't get my account back!"?

Or do they mean they were really hacked?

I find it hard to believe that "hackers" hang around mir hacking on-line games instead of trying to hack the federal bank of america or some other exciting location. But I may be wrong!

When you see some one in mir breaking the rules and trying to trade his/her charachter, do us all a favour and PK him/her or even better report him/her to mir staff with a screenie and report them.

I suspect this will then help reduce the amonut of accounts that have been "hacked".

If you feel insecure.. go change you account password right now... go on do it... are u back yet!


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MastaSatan
Junior Member


United Kingdom
187 Posts
Posted - 12/14/2001 :  20:08:38  Show Profile  Send MastaSatan an ICQ Message  Send MastaSatan an instant message
Sprry to hear that, hen i got hacked I just lost all my good stuff and money, so it wasnt really a low vl player who hacked my acount I think coz if they were low lvl they would of kept the acount.

I hope they get it sorted out, for me and for you


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