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sadow
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Posted - 11/26/2001 :  17:50:58  Show Profile  Send sadow an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
I Want to know if taos get upfate the next path
Because if Taos dont get update. I will stop ptp now
If they do then i will ptp.
so give me an anwers 'yes or no'(no lair like last time ples)

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Khaania
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Posted - 11/26/2001 :  17:58:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can some1 plz tell me the disadvantages of a tao? (in short plz!)

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boggy
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Posted - 11/26/2001 :  17:59:45  Show Profile  Visit boggy's Homepage  Send boggy an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
safe to say all classes will get a nice update

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apb001
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Posted - 11/26/2001 :  19:27:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lol the disadvantages of a tao
i think it would b easyer 4 me 2 list the advantages:
heal


can ne 1 think of ne more???
i cant
oh maby revelation its a laugh
oh u mean practical things.
we dont have ne
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an update 4 taos will b gud, if warriors or wizzards get updated ne more taos will b laughed @ as soon as there ceen (more than we already are)

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DivAvenger
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Posted - 11/26/2001 :  19:53:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll try to keep it short but Im bound to fail, by writing nonsense like that which I've just written.

1. Amulet/Poison switching.

2. Too hard to get poison.

3. Shinsu is WAY too weak.

4. Kills slowest => levels up slowest.

5. Skelly/shinsu accounts for 1/2 our damage output. (Has its advantages and disadvantages)

6. Do you know how long it takes for a tao to kill a Zuma Guardian?

7. Useless in PvP. (A level 35 tao would struggle to kill a level 25 warrior without using skelly/shinsu)

Only class without mass attack, a way of pushing mobs and forced to hunt noob mobs to be able to use one of its skills. Wouldn't you be happy to be forced to go and hunt in oma caves/bichon forest to be able to use tbolt for example?

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Khaania
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Posted - 11/26/2001 :  22:39:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

1. Agree

2. don't agree poisen is 2 powerfull to get i easy. If a tao poisens a mage it will die very fast. Highlevel poisen kills fast.

3. Agree, but developers said many times that shinzu is will get more stronger in the next patches.

4. Don't Agree, Taos need more time 2 level up but i know from ppl who can hunt for hours without using any pots. Healing/Killing/Healing/Killing... i agree with that mages and warrs can hunt easier with harder mobs then taos.

5. Agree

6. Nope, but the matter is not how long it takes the matter is what it takes. Mages kills from distance (if no lag) but uses many mp, warr can go in meele but uses much hp... taos r in the middle u can hit and heal hit and heal... takes longer...

7. Mages r bad in PvP 2, lesser hp and lesser ac. Tao can poisen a warr and hit and run... u can't expect 2 gop in direct meele with a warr. If u could do this this would mean that taos r good as warrs in closed combat that would unbalance the game.

PvP does not mean that i go in melee with a warr or a toa i use as a mage pets and attacks from distance, that the powers of mages. Taos can use poisen/skelly and meele with healing.

Like i said in one of my old posts:

Mages: More AC/DC and more HP, healing spells
Taos : More DC/AC and HP, TBold spell
Warrs: Tbold spell and healing powers...

Oops... now the classes look the same... :)

To be honest i think the classes are ok they only need finetuning... it is not that bad as many ppl say...

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DivAvenger
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Finland
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Posted - 11/26/2001 :  23:35:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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4. Don't Agree, Taos need more time 2 level up but i know from ppl who can hunt for hours without using any pots. Healing/Killing/Healing/Killing... i agree with that mages and warrs can hunt easier with harder mobs then taos.

That is not true, their lieing. It depends on where you hunt though, I've never hunted for hours without using any pots. Even when hunting zombies I would be forced to use a pot or two. Taos use least pots by far though... hunting in BC I use about 1-2 bundles an hour. If I get surrounded by mobs I can easily use a bundle in less than 5 minutes.

Btw how long does it really take for a wizard to tele out of ST and go back? Not very long I would guess, cause your teleport skill is more or less a town tele isnt it? So how long you can stay and hunt does not really make much of a differance.

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Highlevel poisen kills fast.

How long does it last? Hmm I've never been poisoned really so I dont know. I've heared it can do roughly 100hp damage, but this is done in what 30 sec? A warrior can do that kinda damage in less than 5 seconds, so can a wiz. I would not exactly call it fast.

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Fireburst
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  01:38:51  Show Profile  Visit Fireburst's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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Highlevel poisen kills fast.

How long does it last? Hmm I've never been poisoned really so I dont know. I've heared it can do roughly 100hp damage, but this is done in what 30 sec? A warrior can do that kinda damage in less than 5 seconds, so can a wiz. I would not exactly call it fast.


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100 hp damage is a lot of damage to a wizard (@lvl 28 hp=117)


I agree that a tao should be able to kill faster, I've watched many high lvl tao's fighting high lvl mobs for what seems an eternity before they actually kill the mob. Likewise a wiz can kill fairly fast when they have pets but the pets have to stop the mob getting to the wiz or he is dead..it's as simple as that. A szg can kill a high lvl wiz in 1 hit. No time to use a pot or de. I'm not a high enough lvl yet to try out magic shield so I'm not sure how much of an advantage this gives a wiz, I will w8 with baited breath.

A warrior with halfmoon and thrusting on the other hand is a killing machine that can tackle most mobs without any problems.

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xeiz
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  04:07:04  Show Profile  Send xeiz an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
i c all u taos probs i mean i would h8 to like walk about getting pestered by wizes and war permenantly going heal me please rev ma pets they get treated like walkin hp pots ok i was slightly of topic but taos do need a new thing i mean there so slow at killin stuff there aggilitys good but with ma war it takes long enoghe to solo a zuma guardian nevermind a tao doing it

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xeiz
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  04:11:39  Show Profile  Send xeiz an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
ya wiz has the same probs in a way i mean i have mega bad lag like most ppl but i also have 2 hour disconnect damn bt and this kills ma wiz off i mean a wiz without pets is dead in 2 secs flat i mean in order for me to get good mc i have to take ma ac items off and with my low hp and low ac i mean ????????? think u all say wiz dont need ac but wiz have to go close sometimes and theres alway respawns while u try to tame and tame aint as easy as it looks some times it takes age to get 5 magz etc that why i made the bold move of ditchin ma wiz and makin a war too much lag and 2 hour d.c not cut out to be aa wiz

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Pempula
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  07:35:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just to stirr this thread up a bit, I suggest that the developers should take away some DC off of the tao and make his group skills even better (more effective masshiding, shields, healing spells, yellow poison, etc.).

To kill boss mobs you need a group. If anyone still thinks this game were about soloing, switch back to diablo or nethack.

A wizard and a taoist can venture together just about anywhere (and kill anything), only zumataurus seems off the limits for that kind of group, but that may be only because we are still too low level and not (yet) strong enough to do that. The taoists main tasks are, of course, protecting the wiz, taking care of his pets, carrying MP bundles and getting rid of some of the mobs attacking the wiz. Performing these tasks includes shielding, healing, hiding,luring, etc. Besides, there is no better class to lure mobs than a taoist (hiding just makes us taoists superior to any other class in that department).

Of course, throw in a warrior and the group is even stronger, but I do suggest that the warrior is the most useless character of any small group(groups of 2-3 players), except in a 'pure taoist' group, which really doesnt pack a lot of punch. And this in no way means that a warrior is a bad addition to any group, but basically, a warrior is a black maggot with brains, forming a protective wall (causing SOME damage) between a boss mob and the mage (who does most of the damage), and not only that, he can also carry lots of MP pots for the mage.
The tasks for a warrior of course change, if the group size is larger, which is when the warriors start to take more 'offensive responsibility' in the group and become more of less invaluable for the group. A group of 8 consisting of 4 warriors, 2 taoists and 2 mages, can kill anything and survive anywhere in the game. Of course, some planning and skill is required, but that kind of group is almost unstoppable.


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Pempula
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  07:37:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Having said all that, shinsu probably should be made a bit stronger.

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DivAvenger
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Finland
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  07:50:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Just to stirr this thread up a bit, I suggest that the developers should take away some DC off of the tao and make his group skills even better (more effective masshiding, shields, healing spells, yellow poison, etc.).

Yea right make us more useless, pretty surprised to hear that from another taoist.

How many warriors/wizards do you hear in town begging for a taoist to come hunt with em? Not many, perhaps a few noobs now and then but thats it.

If they made that change warriors/wizards could still easily solo while, taos would be stuck in town until some friendly war/wiz would sacrifice a bit of xp to help out the poor helpless tao.

Fireburst, I was not saying that poison do too little damage, I was just saying it does NOT "kill fast".

If we get that rumoured "poison cloud" masS attack Im also certain it will drain like 10-25 poison from a bag each use, if that happens I hope they make it possible to bundle poison bags. Cause one bag wont last more than 10 seconds.

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Christo
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  13:32:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In support of this thread Taos are the most fun to play with in my opinion but when it comers down to fighting there crap!

I can't count the number of times I've gotten pk'd by warriors who are lower lv than myself. I'm a lv28 tao with lv3 summon skelly at first cast it takes 7 hp ish off a lv25 warrior and can take like 4 hits from the warrior.

They say that skellies got better in the last update, can someone tell me how? I haven't noticed any difference at all.

C'mon GM's make us more evenly matched with the other class' please!!!!!!

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Khaania
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Vatican City
160 Posts
Posted - 11/27/2001 :  13:34:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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4. Don't Agree, Taos need more time 2 level up but i know from ppl who can hunt for hours without using any pots. Healing/Killing/Healing/Killing... i agree with that mages and warrs can hunt easier with harder mobs then taos.

quote:

That is not true, their lieing. It depends on where you hunt though, I've never hunted for hours without using any pots. Even when hunting zombies I would be forced to use a pot or two. Taos use least pots by far though... hunting in BC I use about 1-2 bundles an hour. If I get surrounded by mobs I can easily use a bundle in less than 5 minutes.

If u have a high AC u can hunt without beeing hurt that much. So far i know Taos (highlevel) can wear nearly all items of Warrs...

quote:

Btw how long does it really take for a wizard to tele out of ST and go back? Not very long I would guess, cause your teleport skill is more or less a town tele isnt it? So how long you can stay and hunt does not really make much of a differance.

As long as a tao need 2 use a de or a rt...

quote:
Highlevel poisen kills fast.

quote:
How long does it last? Hmm I've never been poisoned really so I dont know. I've heared it can do roughly 100hp damage, but this is done in what 30 sec? A warrior can do that kinda damage in less than 5 seconds, so can a wiz. I would not exactly call it fast.

I'm level 32 and have a hp of ~160hp... if a taos poisens me i die fast (without sun potions or hp potions), coz i can't heal the poisen and poisening (high level) holds pretty long. I Think is taos uses there ability right they can be a really pain in PvP and against mobs. Imho it is not important 2 kill fast, it is important what the "killing" did cost me.

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sadow
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USA
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  13:56:11  Show Profile  Send sadow an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
FFS DumdasS Wiz taos can't kill anything can only help people
You dont know how long we have to play to lv up
DoomDave a wiz lv 26 when i was lv 29 now he lv 36 and i'm lv 32
and santics that Noob was lv 25 when i'm 29 and now he lv33 warrior with Jmage

I DONT CARE TAOS WE WANT POWER TO KILL FASTER AND MORE POWERFUL

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sadow
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USA
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  14:08:31  Show Profile  Send sadow an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
U WIZ AND WARRIOR DONT KNOW I'M TAOS LV 32 HAVE TO LV ING IN THE MINE
SURE I CAN GOTO ZUMA KILL RAT AND BUGCAVE KILL BUG OR BOAR ST
BUT U KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKE FOR TAOS TO KILL ONE OF THEM ?
THAT Y I GOTO MINE BECAUSE I CAN KILL FASTER. AND THAT Y WE TAOS NEVER HAVE ANY GOOD ITEM
LOOK AROUND ON MIR HOW MANY SERPENTSWORD U SEE COMPAIR TO GAXE

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Onimushi
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  15:16:03  Show Profile  Visit Onimushi's Homepage  Send Onimushi an instant message  Reply with Quote
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U WIZ AND WARRIOR DONT KNOW I'M TAOS LV 32 HAVE TO LV ING IN THE MINE
SURE I CAN GOTO ZUMA KILL RAT AND BUGCAVE KILL BUG OR BOAR ST
BUT U KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKE FOR TAOS TO KILL ONE OF THEM ?
THAT Y I GOTO MINE BECAUSE I CAN KILL FASTER. AND THAT Y WE TAOS NEVER HAVE ANY GOOD ITEM
LOOK AROUND ON MIR HOW MANY SERPENTSWORD U SEE COMPAIR TO GAXE

Calm down m8

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DarkOdin
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  16:04:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Taos need....
Stronger poison, maybe a new one like wedgemoths have(turns u into stone)
Maybe poison
Mass soulfireball or somethin lol
Stronger soulfireball
Stronger skele/Shinsu
Less slave spells(mass heal,mass hide)
Higher HP than MP, mp is higher than mp(at lvl27 anyway)
MORE AC!!!!taos have loads of amc which is only good for about 3 mobs
2 Extra slots for poison and amulets, this will enable taos to wear 2 braces like other classes and will stop u having to switch between poison and amulets)
thats about it...
Myabe a new summon spell...
Oh yeah..u should be able to have Shinsu and Skele summoned at the same time.(wizzies can have 5 pets)

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crazy_tn1
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  17:24:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
TOAS SUCK

A LVL 32 TOAS CANT KILL ET WITH OUT POISON AND POISON TAKES FOREVER TO MAKE.
TAKES TOAS THE LONGEST TO LVL UP BECAUSE THEY CANT KILL.

THEY HAVE TO USE AMU;LET AND POISON FOR BRAC SO THEY CANT WEAR 2 BRAC WHICH SUCKS.
THE BONE DO NOTHIN.

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sadow
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Posted - 11/27/2001 :  18:01:41  Show Profile  Send sadow an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
where the hell is all the GMs ? Are they here anwers my guestion
FFS i want to know
Is this game still in testing ?
Are we ptp so u People can test your game ?
I think we got rip off
GMs Anwers Plesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss


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Smojukl
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Posted - 11/28/2001 :  10:39:40  Show Profile  Send Smojukl an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
quote:

quote:
Just to stirr this thread up a bit, I suggest that the developers should take away some DC off of the tao and make his group skills even better (more effective masshiding, shields, healing spells, yellow poison, etc.).

Yea right make us more useless, pretty surprised to hear that from another taoist.

How many warriors/wizards do you hear in town begging for a taoist to come hunt with em? Not many, perhaps a few noobs now and then but thats it.

If they made that change warriors/wizards could still easily solo while, taos would be stuck in town until some friendly war/wiz would sacrifice a bit of xp to help out the poor helpless tao.



Lol yea you're right.
I dont even dare to ask a war/wiz friend if i can go on hunt with them, because they would only level slower because of me.
Ok, sometimes for the fun, but for most players leveling still is what the game is about.

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sadow
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USA
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Posted - 11/28/2001 :  13:33:43  Show Profile  Send sadow an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
LOL U THINK THIS GAME IS ABOUT LV ING ?
I THINK NOT
I THINK THIS GAME IS ALL ABOUT ITEM
AND THERE PRICES ARE FUC K UP 4MIL FOR SERTPENTSWORD
WHAT THE HELL IS THAT ?

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Smojukl
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Posted - 11/28/2001 :  15:03:31  Show Profile  Send Smojukl an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
quote:

LOL U THINK THIS GAME IS ABOUT LV ING ?
I THINK NOT
I THINK THIS GAME IS ALL ABOUT ITEM
AND THERE PRICES ARE FUC K UP 4MIL FOR SERTPENTSWORD
WHAT THE HELL IS THAT ?

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yes and if you dont level you cant have that item you always wanted, but is eg. lvl 35

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sadow
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Posted - 11/28/2001 :  19:10:00  Show Profile  Send sadow an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
yes but can taos find rare item along ?
if we cant kill boss like(SZG,ET,WB etc.)
then we never get thou item that we want
because wiz and warrior sell taos item very very expensive
they got all item because they can kill boss

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FallenOne
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Posted - 11/28/2001 :  19:34:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

where the hell is all the GMs ? Are they here anwers my guestion
FFS i want to know
Is this game still in testing ?
Are we ptp so u People can test your game ?
I think we got rip off
GMs Anwers Plesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss


i dont think this is very appropiate considering what mal's going through

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sadow
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Posted - 11/28/2001 :  19:37:23  Show Profile  Send sadow an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
Mmmm a Suck up much get alots from people

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Pempula
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Posted - 11/29/2001 :  15:57:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

TOAS SUCK

A LVL 32 TOAS CANT KILL ET WITH OUT POISON AND POISON TAKES FOREVER TO MAKE.
TAKES TOAS THE LONGEST TO LVL UP BECAUSE THEY CANT KILL.

THEY HAVE TO USE AMU;LET AND POISON FOR BRAC SO THEY CANT WEAR 2 BRAC WHICH SUCKS.
THE BONE DO NOTHIN.

LVL 32 WARRIOR
CRAZYTN4


LOL
WARRIERS SUK, THEY CANT KILL ET WITHOUT GAXE OR DSWORD AND THEY TAKE FOREVER TO FIND. TAKES WARRIERS THE LONGEST TO LEVEL UP BECAUSE THEY CANT THINK.

THEY HAVE TO USE 2 BRACS SO THEY CANT WEAR AMU;LET AND POISON WHICH SUCKS.
THE BONER DOES NOTHIN, THEY CAN'T EVEN GET IT.

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Skidd
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Posted - 11/29/2001 :  16:35:02  Show Profile  Send Skidd an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
Id say we need extra slots. one for a poison bag and one for another brac.

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sadow
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Posted - 11/30/2001 :  18:00:17  Show Profile  Send sadow an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
NO i said we dont need posion bag to use posion or amulet
so we can carry 2 bracelet and we dont have to carry 10 amulet and 4 posion every hunt this way we can pick up drop+carry more potion

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LordKeo
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Posted - 11/30/2001 :  18:34:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
whatever...your grammar sucks and your an idiot

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